Carrying gasoline for generator
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What's the difference between a semi hauling 8 gallons of gas and a car packing 11+ gallons?
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Flammable Liquids
The Department of Transportation (DOT) has strict guidelines for shippers involved in the transport of hazardous materials. Class 3 flammable liquids are one of the most commonly transported dangerous goods worldwide, so it is essential for shippers to understand how to do so safely and in accordance with the law.
Only approved portable tanks and containers may be used to store and transport class 3 flammable liquids. Portable tanks must include provisions for emergency vents that can be used to decrease internal pressure under fire exposure conditions. They must also have at least one pressure-activated vent.
Small containers holding less than 8 gallons of flammable liquid and with a weight less than 440 pounds can be transported by anyone who has undergone general hazmat training. The shipment must include MSDS sheets and must be appropriately labeled as “Gasoline” or “Flammable Liquid.”
When transporting larger quantities of flammable liquids, the requirements of the Department of Transportation are much stricter. While the only documentation required for certain small shipments are MSDS sheets, larger shipments must include an emergency response guide and hazmat bill of lading. Drivers who transport more than 119 gallons or more than 1,001 pounds of class 3 dangerous goods must also have a commercial driver’s license, or CDL. Extensive driver training is also highly recommended for those who carry large amounts.
Shippers who transport containers that hold less than 8 gallons and weigh more than 440 pounds but less than 1,001 pounds and containers that hold between 8 and 119 gallons and weigh less than 1,001 pounds must complete emergency response guide training as well as HM-126F training.
Lastly, all shipments of class 3 flammable liquids must be labeled appropriately. Class 3 flammable liquid labels should be affixed to all small containers to let anyone handling them know that the materials contained within are dangerous. Dangerous Good placards are required by 49 CFR 172.500 as well as the International Maritime Organization. Such placards must be affixed to highway, rail and ocean containers. They are generally made from fade- and water-resistant vinyl to ensure longevity and to prevent them from falling off during transit. -
what everyone is missing is this fact that there is a clear division between the truck and the cargo of the truck, where is the regulation about the truck?
Like a gasoline pony motor mounted to a truck to power a pump, it has a separate gas tank mounted to the chassis, so that’s illegal now?
nope, it is legal as long as the tank meets the us dot requirements.
so then propane tank mounted to the chassis holding a reportable quantity now requires placards?GreenPete359, ready2truck, flood and 2 others Thank this. -
You can tell me yes or no but if you go back a few post there was a Hazmat chart that was listed and I think that's what you are referring to. That instruction is only about cargo that you are carrying not a mounted tank for auxiliary equipment.
If you read the regulations for 393.67, it seems pretty clear what they are referring to and what the regulations actually are, including anywhere a fitting is there must be a nub welded into the tank, and for any fuels aside from diesel they must draw from the top of the tank above the normal fuel level, and gravity fed fuel systems are not permitted. And of course it must be vented.
And they specifically discuss side-mounted auxiliary tanks carrying fuel for auxiliary equipment.
In this case I agree with @Ridgeline 100%.
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Or 2 100 gallon gasoline tanks on a semi for that matter. Not all semis were always Diesels. Used to be plenty of Gassers. I think placards only apply to cargo. I recall one hazmat placarded load I delivered. Multiple stops to beauty supply houses. The hazardous material was nail polish and hair coloring. What they need is a regulation identifying the tank as having gasoline in it. The whole point of placards is for Firefighters on the scene, being able to identify the Cargo. Gasoline is so volatile. The gasoline tank should be marked IMO, on a Diesel Powered Truck, in the rare case of an accident with fire, for the same reason. The whole idea of carrying gasoline on my Truck in any form bothers me.
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So all these hotshots hauling 3 or 4 gasoline powered cars requires hazmat placards and insurance covering hazmat?
Never seen a real car hauler with hazmat placards either? Not all them vehicles can have less than 8 gallons in them?
The #### some people fill there day with amusement me.JoeyJunk Thanks this.
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