Casual or intermittent driver log question

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Pilotdriver, Sep 23, 2016.

  1. Pilotdriver

    Pilotdriver Bobtail Member

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    I have a full-time job that is un-related to the motor vehicle industry, and I also fill in as a casual or intermittent driver for a local trucking company on my days off.

    I currently utilize the form below every time I drive so that I am able to show the amount of duty time from my non-driving job for the preceeding seven days. I believe that with that preceeding seven days form I am legal to begin using the log for my first day of driving rather than filling out a log for each of the preceeding seven days. I am looking for some feedback, preferably from someone that has experience in this situation, just to make sure my approach is legal.

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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    You want a proper logbook. You can find a standard paper log with 4 lines to fill your time. Against the limitations of your hours of service.

    That form is pretty. But it wont fly against a log for actual driving.
     
  4. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    I agree with X1, get a logbook.

    The paper in your post is not a government issued log sheet. Merely one that all companies utilize. But if you ever get stopped and inspected or in an accident, I do not see DOT accepting it. Even more so, a lawyer on a prosecution case against you, will wipe his arse with that paper.

    You need a log showing your previous 7 days + today. That way everyone knows when you started and finished work. And you had a ten hour break prior to driving under FMCSA. There was something else important I wanted too add. But it's slipped my mind.
     
  5. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    My company uses a similar form for the Temp drivers. On our form they have the past day section like yours plus a one day log page.
     
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  6. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    You don't need a govt issued log page. You simply have to have a form with the govt required info. You can print it on the side of a beer cooler or frisbee if you want. My VERY big company has a stack of similar forms for the Temp Drivers that may work for us for 1 day on a trip needing to be logged.
     
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  7. Tug Toy

    Tug Toy Road Train Member

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    Do you punch a time clock at your non driving job?
     
  8. halfassdriver

    halfassdriver Light Load Member

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    I use a similar for except its a little.more formal from jj kellar. Never had problem
     
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  9. Pilotdriver

    Pilotdriver Bobtail Member

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    No, but I am bound by duty time limitations, therefore I receive an electronic message at the end of each day which shows the time I went on duty and the time I was relieved of duty plus total time on duty for that day.
     
  10. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    I didn't say you need a govt form. Merely stated it's not govt issued.

    No log book is government issued. Hence there are differences in them all.

    But your company having the same sheet with a 1 day log on it, is appropriate in my eyes. You have to show a ten hour break prior to driving.
    According to 395.8

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    So all you do need is that single paper and a time of when you were last relieved from your other job.
    It's in section (i) for those that want to find it
     
  11. Pilotdriver

    Pilotdriver Bobtail Member

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    That is exactly what I do when I drive, I fill out the form I posted above which shows the amount of time I have been on duty in the preceeding seven days and under the grid you will see that it shows what time I was last relieved of duty in order to prove I have had 10 hours off before driving, THEN I use a normal four-line logbook form to begin logging my driving on day one of my driving trip.

    All the form does is not require me to fill out seven days worth of logs to show how much time I have been on duty for my non-driving job.

    Like I initially said, I was just looking for some feedback from other guys who have done it this way before to see if they have had any issues.
     
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