Cat C-7 Code

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  1. underpsi

    underpsi Road Train Member

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    A friend of mine has a Ford 650 with a C-7 Acert and its setting the check engine light off with the code 32-5 Turbo wastegate solenoid current low and also comes up with Turbo derate protection active while driving.

    I check it out for him and the turbo just looks like a regular journal bearing turbo with the wastegate line referenced off of the compressor housing. So this doesn't make sense how it could have a waste gate solenoid thats not even connected to the turbo. Theres no wires or sensors going to the turbo at all.

    He has to leave this Friday to go on a trip so it would be good to let him know what he needs to do to get it running right.

    Serial number WAX09594
     
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  3. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

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    broken wire, corroded connector ore bad solenoid..... grab your DVOM and find the problem! CAT Sis will help with diagram!
     
  4. underpsi

    underpsi Road Train Member

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    the truck doesn't have a wastegate solenoid though...
     
  5. beltrans

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    0032-05 Turbo Wastegate Solenoid current low

    SMCS - 5479-038


    Conditions Which Generate This Code:

    The Engine Control Module (ECM) detects the following conditions:
    • The ECM detects a low current condition (open circuit) in the circuit for the wastegate solenoid for more than 0.12 seconds.
    • Battery voltage is above 9 V.
    • Desired current must be more than 0.2 amp.
    System Response:
    The ECM will log the diagnostic code and the ECM will trigger a snapshot. The check engine lamp will turn on once the diagnostic code has been active for one minute. After the derate has been activated Caterpillar Electronic Technician (ET) will indicate "Turbo Protection Derate Active".
    The engine will be derated while this diagnostic code is active. This diagnostic code indicates a problem with the circuit for the wastegate solenoid.


    System Operation Description:
    This procedure covers the following diagnostic codes. These diagnostic codes indicate that an electrical problem is occurring with the wastegate control solenoid:
    • 32-05 Turbo Wastegate Solenoid current low
    • 32-06 Turbo Wastegate Solenoid current high
    • 32-11 Turbo Wastegate Solenoid current mismatch
    If a mechanical problem occurs with the wastegate control valve or with the wastegate valve, the following diagnostic codes will become logged:
    • 102-01 Low Boost Pressure
    • 102-02 Boost Pressure signal erratic
    • 102-07 Boost Pressure not responding
    This engine utilizes a wastegate control valve that is electronically controlled in order to precisely regulate the boost pressure. The Engine Control Module (ECM) monitors the signal from the boost pressure sensor in order to determine the boost pressure in the intake manifold. The ECM uses this information and other information that is related to the current power demand and the current engine operating conditions in order to determine the optimum position of the wastegate valve at the turbocharger. The turbocharger's wastegate valve regulates the amount of exhaust gas that is allowed to bypass the turbine wheel of the turbocharger. This allows the ECM to control the speed of the turbocharger and the boost pressure.

    Boost pressure from the intake manifold is diverted through wastegate pressure line (3) to wastegate actuator (4) that is mounted on the turbocharger. The wastegate actuator contains a diaphragm that is used to actuate the control rod assembly (5) for the wastegate valve. As the pressure in the wastegate actuator builds the control rod assembly is extended. This causes the wastegate valve to open the bypass passage that is internal to the turbocharger housing. Drain orifice (6) is used to allow line pressure to escape as the actuator's diaphragm is allowed to relax.
    Note: Attempting to defeat the wastegate could cause the engine to be derated. Note: The ECM exercises the wastegate control valve during periods of extended engine idle. The wastegate control solenoid is energized periodically if an extended period of low engine idle is detected by the ECM. This is normal. Do not troubleshoot the wastegate solenoid for this reason.
    This is some info for the engine WAX09594 pasted from CAT SIS.
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2011
    underpsi Thanks this.
  6. underpsi

    underpsi Road Train Member

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    It just doesn't make snese since there is no solenoid for the turbo wastegate it completely mechanically controlled from the boost reference line coming from the compressor housing of the turbo.

    Is there a WAX serial number that didn't come with the wastegate solenoid or did they all have them?
     
  7. beltrans

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    I tried just WAX without numbers and it gives the same information.
    32-05 Turbo Wastegate Solenoid current low 32-06 Turbo Wastegate Solenoid current hig 32-11 Turbo Wastegate Solenoid current mismatch
     
  8. DDS

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    Flash it back to stock hp, its got the wrong file in it.
     
  9. underpsi

    underpsi Road Train Member

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    Did they make a 330hp WAX without the wastegate solenoid?
     
  10. V3n0m5

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    Some WAX did not have a waist gate solenoid. On the left hand side of the engine where the solenoid should be is the harness plug blanked off. Just connect the two wires together and the code will stop coming up.
     
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