Cat motor to cummins can it be done?

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  1. sbatson

    sbatson Light Load Member

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    Ive been looking for a truck and found one that has 3406e cat motor in it now and it needs to be replaced and I was thinking about just going a different route and putting a cummins in it, can tghis be done?
     
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  3. Kittyfoot

    Kittyfoot Crusty Ancient

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    Will cost more than the truck is likely worth. Anything can be done if you're willing to spend the $$$$$$$$$$$$ to do it. What you gotta do is ask if the end result will be worth it.

    Either repower the Cat or look for a Cummins equipped truck.
     
  4. dave_0755

    dave_0755 Light Load Member

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    I've heard that all you need to do to change a Kenworth from a Cat to a Detroit is to change the engine mounts and the wiring harness. The tranny should bolt right up.

    I'm not a mechanic but an engine swap to me seems pretty simple. I would think that its a cheaper route than to do an inframe.
     
  5. canuck in da truck

    canuck in da truck Road Train Member

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    the transmission will bolt right up--and thats the easy part--
    all engine electrical has to be changed over as well as some in the cab--
    the cooling system will need adaptastion as well as exhaust and intake systems
    some of those things are easy to do--others will take some figuring---
    drive shaft--cant remember if we had to change it out or not--the engine might have sat in same spot
    why not just put another cat in it?--would be a lot easier
     
  6. dave_0755

    dave_0755 Light Load Member

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    The guy that told me about it owned a salvage yard. He said what they do is get the engine out of a wrecked truck of the same model. Like get a Detroit out of a T-600 and put it in a T-600 that has a blown Cat. He told me it's easier to swap the engines than to do an in frame. Then again I have never done it or saw it done.
     
  7. sbatson

    sbatson Light Load Member

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    I guess my reason behind this is I hear that 3406e was just a ok motor and I would hate to spend money on a inframe if it would cost close to the same to motor swap it to a cummins. I guess what is your take on the 3406e?
     
  8. Bent Wrench

    Bent Wrench Medium Load Member

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    All of the brands have their shortcomings, it depends on what you are comfy with.

    Mr Haney (sp?) can hook you up and make that thing a fuel sipping cool running 600hp monster.

    I think the guy at the salvage yard thinks he has a fish on and is going to kill 2 birds.
    Of course he is going to tell you it is easy.....

    Since you are asking I would guess that you don't have the experience or maybe the skills, the learning curve may be steep.

    I would not think of doing it without the trucks parked next to each other.
    Even then the electrical interface between the truck and the motor may be too big a challenge. That is where I would focus my attention prior to undertaking such a project.
     
  9. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    One of the best engines that was available for a class 8 truck IMO. As long as the rebuild is done right and it was tuned for what your looking for (either big HP or fuel mileage) I can't see any reason why anyone would want to swap engines unless you already had the engine ready to bolt in. And even then I'm not sure I'd want the headache.

    A guy here put a '99 (i think) 3406E in an '06 379 in place of a C13 that took a major dump. I think he only had to move 2 motor mounts but I think swapping brands would be a PITA.
     
  10. MedicineMan

    MedicineMan Road Train Member

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    3406e is the best truck motor ever built? who the hell you been talking to? swapping a cat for a cummis is like divorcing Pam Anderson to marry Rosanne Bar
     
  11. sbatson

    sbatson Light Load Member

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    MedicineMan thats funny. Ok I got my trucks confused its a 3406c. Ill try to post pics.
     
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