CB/10 meter question.

If everyone respects the privileges of their respective radio services, and uses what they have within those boundaries, there IS no problem. Just as I would expect each of us here NOT to enter my house without permission, I also expect CB operators not to encroach on the 10 Meter band. Likewise, YOU should be able to expect that *I* would not invade YOUR home without permission. The 10 meter band is "home", along with many other bands, to the Amateur Radio Service and "permission" to use it is granted thru licensure by FCC. Just as I don't want illegal operators ON the 10 and 12 Meter bands, YOU don't want ME snooping around, or rummaging in your truck while you aren't there! That is wrong, and "filching" so-called "extra" channels is equally wrong as well as against the law! If someone SEES me climbing down out of your truck with an Ipod in my hand, and reports me to the cops, then I should get exactly what I deserve for the crime of THEFT! OTH, if a ham hears a CB operator on 28.085 AM, or sees a truck operating there visually, then he may report that fact to the FCC who then "protects" the rightful operators and their privileges by exercising their statutory authority to prevent it. In effect, the ham, by reporting the trucker, is doing the very same thing as YOU would do if you, or a friend, saw me making off with your Ipod. Legally, it is the SAME difference.

GF

 

It is not the same difference and you know it gad.

 

Come in my truck and you will see the flash of my 44mag

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I don't understand how some Drivers don't think Laws don't mean what they say. Anyone using a ilegal CB can be fined up $25,000. But in most cases it's less than $10,000. In Maryland at the scales DOT has givin out $7,500 fines for just having Export radios in a truck. And no you don't have to be talking on it, or even have it on. So you can't say it's because it's because of the old ham bittys. Some of the FREE band channels belong to the FBI, U.S. Marshals, Military, and other goverment agency. Read below:

http://transition.fcc.gov/eb/AmateurActions/files/willi13_01_05_5351.html

And look what happened to a Trucking co. I sure wouldn't want to have to explain to my boss why I caused him to get a certified letter from the FCC threatening to fine his company!


FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION

Enforcement Bureau

Spectrum Enforcement Division

1270 Fairfield Road

Gettysburg, Pennsylvania 17325-7245

VIA CERTIFIED MAIL - RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED

August 7, 2007

Smith Trucking, Inc.

2719 Morgantown Road

Smithfield, PA 15478

ATTN: Theodore Smith

SUBJECT: WARNING NOTICE - UNLICENSED RADIO OPERATION

Case #EB-07-SE-3061

Dear Mr. Smith:

Information before the Commission indicates that your drivers have been
operating radio equipment without a license on the frequency 28.535 MHz
and causing interference to licensed stations in the Ten Meter Amateur
Band.

The drivers were observed operating unlicensed in April and May 2007 on
Route 19 between the Fairmont, West Virginia area and the Haywood power
plant near Shinnston, WV.

Please advise your drivers that operation of radio transmitting equipment
without a license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act
of 1934, as amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301, and will subject them to fine
or imprisonment, as well as an in rem seizure of any non-certified radio
transmitting equipment, in cooperation with the United States Attorney for
your jurisdiction. Monetary forfeitures normally range from $7,500 to
$10,000.

You are requested to contact me at 717-338-2502 to discuss this matter.

Sincerely,

W. Riley Hollingsworth

Special Counsel

cc: FCC Northeastern Regional Director

 

Our we don't care llwhen I'm running 110000 lbs and hot logs
Buy passing scales I like having something with 400 watts do you think I really care about fcc hey beloved legal and stay broke far as I'm concerned
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Under US law it IS the same thing. By entering one's house and taking personal property, you are depriving that owner of the USE of that which he "paid". (Theft). By encroaching on 10 Meters, or 2 Meters (in effect not paying for the privilege by complying with the law, which requires testing and authorization by licensure), you are depriving the RIGHTFUL users of said frequencies by being on those frequencies to start with. It creates interference the rightful users should NOT have to put up with, hence the infraction that leads to fines, even jail sentences. It is, in essence, the same thing because harm has been caused in both cases. Steal an Ipod, get caught, pay the price if caught. "Steal" the 10 Meter band, get caught, PAY the price.

This is the thing that has always irked me about CB. It is this particular band, or group of users, that seems to believe they somehow have some "right" to frequencies or allocations that have been designated to others. CB operators have 40 channels on which to play--most of whom go begging. The police have their allocations, life saving has theirs, commercial interests have theirs, and hams have theirs--all by LAW. But certain CBers think they somehow are exempt and shoulda, woulda, coulda have everybody elses, too. Therein lies the rub and the conflict. There ARE no 'extra' channels, no "truckers' channels", no nut'tin; just 40 channels that mostly are empty. But hams, for example, find bootleg operators on 10 and 12 Meters. What if I took an old military transmitter (it will crank out 7,000 watts AM) and locked down the CB band? People wouldn't like that. Then WHY should the hams have to put up with sh** operators on their allocations? It IS about respect for each other, and no matter how you cut it, if you are found on the 10 Meter band, the hams CAN, and WILL find you eventually and turn the matter over to the Feds. So don't! Read about a fellow called "White Noise" on QRZ.com (news) & the ARRL Letter.

GF

 

I'm calling BS NO WAY thy cab lock down on you rolling down the road

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If you mean they can't track your signal while moving. Yes, they can. Using a Doppler antenna setup they can get headings on you while they're moving. And with a spectrum analyzer they can "fingerprint" the rf signal of the radio.

I've done mobile fox hunting with amateur radio. And it works.


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Where do you get this stuff? Under the law it's NOT the same stuff. One is theft of tangible property, the other (radio use on the upper freqs) is theft only in your mind. No one is ever charged with theft for encroachment of the frequencies of which you speak.

Your assertion about jail time is bunk. No one ever went to jail for simple encroachment on those frequencies. You're using scare tactics and outright lies.

Your disdain for CB users is well documented and everyone gets it, they just don't all agree with you. Your assumption that these users think they have a "right" is also all in your mind. Most aren't aware of the frequency allocations when they buy that shiny new radio with the upper and lower "extra" channels and those who are familiar with them don't usually over-concern themselves with the regulations you parrot but that doesn't mean they believe in any manner whatsoever they have a "right" or are exempt to them, they simply don''t give it nary a thought unlike yourself.

You can site any example you feel necessary to make your point but in every example you will find repeated illegal behavior or intentional interference. The hams can find anyone they want. It means nothing. They have zero enforcement or regulating authority. ALL they can do is monitor and report the matter (like ANYONE else can do) to the FCC which in turn must witness the illegal activity before ANYTHING can be done. You're fighting a lost battle and you know it otherwise you wouldn't feel it necessary to make stuff up.