CBS top lawyer fired over Las Vegas shooting remark.

Discussion in 'Other News' started by Chinatown, Oct 3, 2017.

  1. Western flyer

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    Really. Like nobody in that office at cbs knew her
    Political stance before the shooting.
    She got the job by being a wacko liberal.
    Her hate is so strong she couldn't resist jumping
    On Facebook and telling her true feelings.

    She's a freaking lawyer. She should have known better.
     
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  3. AModelCat

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    Most country music fans are Republican? So just by someone's musical taste you can judge their political beliefs? Did she get dropped on her head as a child?
     
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  4. IluvCATS

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    This is the first time a lot of liberals have ever been in this situation. Not me. I learned how not to freak out and personally insult Obama supporters around me because I knew it would just alienate myself from teachers, coworkers, neighbors and friends of my wife. So I learned how to not act out. It was unbelievable to me that Obama was reelected but I went on living and behaving normally. I survived. Now these libs are acting insane. It's new to them that we don't have the candidates they decided for us (McCain, Romney, Jeb Bush). They aren't used to this like I am.
     
  5. boredsocial

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    Eh... be fair. This is mass shooting #1658 it feels like. If you believe that all of those shootings were preventable and that the second amendment is an antiquated piece of paper that no longer makes any sense she's kind of got a point. This particular shootings demographics probably skewed heavily towards second amendment supporters. Since she blames second amendment supporters for this shooting happening in the first place it's not completely insane.

    That doesn't change the fact that you're NEVER supposed to say stuff like that in public. That was an ugly liberal opinion. Like the uncle we all have who is not so secretly a full blown racist. You all know which one if you want to be honest with yourselves. We all know he's quite a bit further out there than this woman is. She's a lefty nut job to be sure, but once you assume the perspective of a lefty nut job blaming these victims is pretty standard.

    EDIT: I mean how many times has your uncle advocated shooting the illegals at the border? That's a pretty extreme position murdering people for trying to pursue better economic opportunities for their family. Definitely more extreme than not having sympathy for a group of people who have just endured a tragedy. Not trying to say two wrongs make a right-because they absolutely don't... Just pointing out that there's plenty of unpopular opinions out there that nobody should actually say out loud.
     
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  6. boredsocial

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    I'd probably be a Republican if it weren't for W and now Trump. As it stands I'm a deeply disgusted independent. This countries political establishment needs to go back to being about serving the country instead of serving themselves. We need to rediscover shame ASAP.
     
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  7. sealevel

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    I heard a quote the other day that basically sums it up. Conservatives hate the ideas attached to the ideals of liberals. Liberals hate the people attached to the ideals of conservatism. Who's the tolerant ones now.
     
  8. IluvCATS

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    Liberals are now "the Man". Boy how things have changed.
     
  9. boredsocial

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    Yeah I think there's plenty of hate to go around dude. A sizeable % of the GOP base thinks Obama was a muslim who destroyed this country... which is a straight up lie paired with a massive massive distortion of reality. The reality is that he was a fairly competent liberal president. That means he did a lot of things that I disagree with, but it doesn't mean that he hated conservatives or that it's appropriate to think that he had malice for the country. Obviously he wanted what was best for the country and we just disagree with him.

    Everyone in every debate in America needs to take it down about 11 notches in volume. We need to figure out everything we agree on and do those things RIGHT NOW. Nothing has gotten done since I can barely remember when. This politics-as-war nonsense has to stop now.

    Lead, follow, or get out of the way. Saying 'no' to everything because it isn't pure enough is doing a huge amount of harm to us as we keep trudging along with antiquated rules, regulations, tax codes, while our infrastructure rots. I'm seriously considering moving away from Louisville (a city I absolutely love- as it is today) to find a city that has a better future outlook. I'm considering it because this state has a large pension problem and the city has been degrading since Jerry left office... Buying a house here feels like buying a house in Detroit in 1983. It doesn't suck yet, but in ten years it could be really terrible. The schools are degrading and crime is getting worse. All of that is because we, as a country, have decided that it is more important to blow up brown people and overpay for healthcare than it is to educate the next generation (who will compete in a truly globalized world against children from everywhere on pure merit and cost) and keep the infrastructure that holds everything together maintained. Because we've decided that we're willing to do anything to suppress crime except make structural changes to the overall system in ways that would reduce crime.

    At some point we need to make some hard choices. We haven't made one in a very long time, but I have a suspicion that once the initial sting goes away we'll find that it's much easier to breathe without one or more of these anchors around our neck. (military, healthcare, goofy 'normalizing' trade deals that are actually poorly disguised aid packages to buy support for our empire)
     
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    I agree with much of what you said. Nothing constructive will happen as long as politics is a cable news led sports event. Merely pointing out the venom from the prominent left is like nothing I have ever seen. Not a huge Trump fan here either. We can agree to disagree.
     
  11. boredsocial

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    The political parties were always the man. Power has always been their business.

    The reality is that the smarter liberals and the smarter conservatives really need to sit down and settle some of these old fights. There are clear winners and losers on some of them, and it's time to have new arguments ffs.

    I propose that the liberals concede that the government isn't always right, nobody should be compelled to call anyone else anything, and that a sizeable portion of the welfare spend is the textbook definition of enabling someone to continue ruining their lives and the lives of their families. They also need to own the fact that the great society was a disaster, and that defining someone by their victimhood isn't useful. They also need to stop saying 'rape culture' from now on, and please stop acting as though liberty isn't worth anything. Any policy that involves the government sliding deeper into the private lives of its citizens has a major con. Not saying it can't be justified but it's a massive ask. Similar to saying 'this policy will increase the global risk of cancer for the entire population of the US by 1%'. Yes there are situations where we look at that ask and say 'yeah ok'... But that's going to be pretty serious business isn't it?

    The conservatives need to own up to the fact that science is real, gays should be allowed to marry, drugs should be legal, abortion before 20 weeks should be legal (and actively discouraged through scientifically proven effective sex ed and birth control), and that in certain circumstances the governments involvement is actually the right answer to the problem. They also need to own the fact that when it's happening to black people it's still government oppression and it's still against conservative principles. They need to own how crazy the police state has gotten and accept a massive cutback to it.

    Everyone needs to listen to each other and acknowledge that they want good things for the country too. Everyone on both sides wants the same stuff. We just disagree about how to get there. Both sides are right about some stuff and wrong about some stuff. We need to all stop assuming that our side is 100% right and the other side is evil and out to make Mad Max into reality TV.
     
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