CDL A School, Work Class B, and Driver Logs

Yes, all class time must be logged on duty or driving as appropriate and the time does count against your 70. It is no different than if you got a second job.

 

No, don't notify your current employer. Use paper logs. Yeah, I know I'm not supposed to tell you that.
Using paper logs for cdl school, you'll go to your new job clean and with plenty of hours to get started. Notify your current employer and you might be fired and that will do some serious damage when you apply for your next job. Trucking companies don't want to hire someone that's just been fired and many won't.

 

If you are being PAID to attend the classes, you have to report your hours in class and driving. If you receive no compensation, you do not need to on your work ELD and just use paper to satisfy your class. Compensation is the keyword.

 

Excellent point and factual!

 

This is what I was thinking. I am guessing the class wants him to use a logbook just for instructional purposes.

 

Technically, yes. If you read your employee handbook there should be a section about logging outside work. Read and follow it.

90% chance you could keep separate logs and no one would ever be the wiser. The risk is what happens if you're in an 'incident' - either at work or school? If the opposing lawyers can prove you were outside the HOS at the time of the incident you automatically become at least partially liable, and in some states you can go from being 0% liable to 100% liable.

Your employer shouldn't have an issue with you taking classes to upgrade your license/yourself. If they do, forget them right in the ear. In 4 weeks you'll have a class A and you'll have a lot of options.

 

If it were a class on underwater basket weaving, I'd agree. All that matters in that sceranrio is the driver has 'adequete rest' before starting his shift.

In this case he is using a CMV, which must be logged 'on duty' or 'driving'. A person might be able to argue that the classroom portion could be logged off duty, but not the pre-trips, the range time, or the driving.

 

Only if he's being paid/compensated for all that.