CDL A School, Work Class B, and Driver Logs

I’d keep the log for the school only as practice on paper if I have to to appease them. Otherwise they can pound sand.

 

395.2 says "on duty means":
(2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;

(3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;

(4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:

(i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in § 397.5 of this subchapter;

(ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth; or

(iii) Up to 3 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 7 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;

Compensated or not, it needs to be logged.

 

OK, but I still wouldn't log it. He's not an employee.

 

And the speed limit means not 1 mph over it or it’s breaking the law. But yet we all do it. Don’t overthink it and don’t sweat it. No one will ever ask if you’re working a second job or going to truck driving school.

 

Regs say log it.
The practical answer is log it on paper log sheets & keep your mouth shut at work & class about both to the other activity. School shouldn't know about your Class B & work. Work shouldn't know about your Class A school.

 

Not to sidetrack the thread but, I’m curious why the OP doesn’t let his employer know.

Was a time when some employers would cover the cost or at least some for higher education. I got my class B years ago through an employer and have a cousin that got his A through UPS.

 

I've known employers that would fire a driver for what the OP is doing and if a driver gave a two week notice "Go now, I don't want a 2 week notice", then put something on the drivers DAC to cause problems with future employment. Most drivers don't have the resources to fight that in court.

 

Schools have people do paper logs as a teaching tool. Its isnt (or rather shouldnt) be to track your actual class time. Back when I went to school (in 1984) at the end of class they would give us our daily log problem. For example go from Rosemount, Mn to St Paul and load for 2.25 hours, then go somewhere else and unload, and do something else over there and then go home. They wanted you to learn "real world" logging. See if you could figure the travel times, figure when you had to take a break, ect.

 

Speed limit isn't a great metaphor here. A better one would be third lane violations. Hopping out into the 3rd lane will almost never cause a driver legal difficulties, but when it does it's a big thing. Hard to fight the ticket and harder still to explain it away to the safety critters.

 

I'm with the camp that says paper logs and don't let current employer know.

But I also tear those tags off a matress that say Do Not Remove.