CDL class A- straight truck- log book????

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Chaps, Apr 12, 2015.

  1. Alaska76

    Alaska76 Road Train Member

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    You would not be in the wrong running a log book when it is not required, anyhow.
     
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  3. Ridgeline

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    This is the right info, except one thing said "If you work more than 12 hours a day or do not return to the same place that you started then you need a log book for that day.", there are times when I have to leave a truck where the customer tells me, and it isn't where I picked it up at. Sometimes it is to get loaded for the next day or for servicing and I am told by the MSP/CE that I don't need to log that, it is within the 100 air mile rule.
     
  4. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Ridgeline, but do you then go back to your home terminal to go home? If so, then yes you are still exempt from the log, as you were released from duty at the same point you reported to duty, doesn't matter where the truck is. If you go straight home from where you leave the truck then go back to the truck the next day, then you would need a log book for that trip, see the FMCSA guidance below, as I believe this would apply to the situation you have described.
    Question 15: May an operation that changes its normal work-reporting location on an intermittent basis utilize the 100-air-mile radius exemption?
    Guidance: Yes. However, when the motor carrier changes the normal reporting location to a new reporting location, that trip (from the old location to the new location) must be recorded on the record of duty status because the driver has not returned to his/her normal work reporting location.
     
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    Also, here is part of the text of 395.1 (e) which is the short haul exemption, bold added for emphasis. I would say the advice you have received from your local MSP/CE is incorrect, unless Michigan uses different rules for local intrastate drivers. If that is the case then you may be correct for your specific operation. Notice how the rule doesn't say anything about the truck, it only matters where the driver reports to and is then released from work.

    (e) Short-haul operations —(1) 100 air-mile radius driver . A driver is exempt from the requirements of § 395.8 if:
    (i) The driver operates within a 100 air-mile radius of the normal work reporting location;
    (ii) The driver, except a driver-salesperson, returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 12 consecutive hours;
    (iii)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;
     
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  6. Brandonpdx

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    So if the vehicle is over 10,000 lbs you need a logbook even if you just had a regular driver's license?
     
  7. Ridgeline

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    Yes, the license has nothing to do with it, it is the Gross Vehicle Weight of the truck that does.
     
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