Cdl hos and non cdl vehicals

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by killerq123, Oct 10, 2008.

  1. rabblerouser12

    rabblerouser12 Bobtail Member

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    I just did this in class... if you stay in state lines, and within a 100 air-mile radius, you are not required to have a logbook IF a) you report to the same place at the beginning and end of the day, and b) your company keeps your time records for the last 6 months. You still have to follow the 11, 14, and the 70-8 or 60-7 rules though. if after the 70 hrs have been hit, you cant drive a cdl veh but you can still work.

    part 395.5 for rules regarding passenger vehicle and the 60/70 hr rules
    part 395.1 (e) for rule regarding the shorthaul exception (logbook)
     
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  3. rabblerouser12

    rabblerouser12 Bobtail Member

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    my mistake, just read thru 395.1 again, and for passenger vehicles its 12 hr on duty, in which you can drive 10, then you have to have 8 off.
     
  4. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Most of your questions are answered here . Note that for CMV's requiring a CDL it's a 100 mile radius and time records must be kept . FMCSA restricts you to 12 hours but if you stay intrastate in FL you are exempt from FMCSA rules .
    Now that raises a question for killerq123 . Does your limo company operate outside Florida ? I'm assuming they do if DOT told them they needed log books . They must have DOT authority .
     
    killerq123 Thanks this.
  5. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    I know all about that not moving freight but moving passengers . I once worked for a company that had their own points system that was more strict than the state's was . They disqualified me from driving CDL vehicles over the road . Instead they had me driving a 15 passenger van transporting crews 200-300 miles to jobs .
    You can find a driving job somewhere . Ask around . I know a company in Orlando that let a driver keep driving after he failed a drug test - until news got to the corporate office in MA . Even then they let the driver take a counseling program then start driving again .
    It's all here . http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/drug/engtesting.htm
    The Feds say if you test clean and participate in an approved program you can work . The option is up to the employer .
     
  6. killerq123

    killerq123 Bobtail Member

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    Well Rick we do go out of state but not very often I would say that 99% of all work is done within the tampa bay area. We Do some orlando,Sarasota,Pinellas( if you know the area).. see this is why I brought this up because We have 31 and 36 pass mini busess and those Strech Hummers(18Pass) so thise need CDL C with pass. And for some reason Dot has been going around to all Services that have CMV's telling us that we have to have Logs and comply. This all seems very fine line and confusing....
     
  7. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Your company would be better off staying intrastate and canceling their Federal authority . More trouble than it's worth here .
     
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