Cdl? Or no

True, but in Illinois you can be licensed with a class. B non cdl.

I had one for many years.

 

*edit* probably should have multi-quoted a few others...whole post ain't directed at you, just the first sentence... */edit*

In the situation being discussed, the truck is neither a rental, nor is it being used to haul personal belongings, therefore I felt that rental truck exception was irrelevant.

The license needed is based off the GVWR, not the GCWR. If the vehicle being driven has a GVWR less than 16,000 pounds, you only need a class D license. If the vehicle has a GVWR between 16,001 and 26,000 pounds, you need a class C license. If the vehicle has a GVWR 26,001 or higher, you need a class B license.

If you are towing a trailer with a GVWR exceeding 10,000 pounds, it doesn't matter what the GVWR of the towing vehicle is, and it doesn't matter what the GCWR is...you still need a class A license to pull it.

If your truck is registered in Illinois with H plates, you need to have a class C license to drive it.

If your truck is registered in Illinois with J or heavier plates, you need to have a class B license to drive it.

If your trailer is registered in Illinois with TE or heavier plates, you need to have a class A license to pull it.

TA through TD trailers can be pulled behind any vehicle, by any person with a license which allows them to drive the vehicle by itself.

In other words, a trailer with TD plates (8,001-10,000) can be pulled behind an F truck (12,001-16,000) and you only need a class D license.

A TD trailer (8,001-10,000) can be pulled behind an H truck (16,001-26,000) and you need to have a class C license.

A TE trailer (10,001-14,000) pulled behind a B truck (8,000 or less) and you need a class A license because the trailer exceeds 10,000.

You ONLY need a CDL if you are operating a Commercial motor vehicle. If you are not operating a commercial motor vehicle, there is no need for a commercial driver's license. You still need the license classification on your DL for the vehicle type being driven, it just does not have to be a CDL. That goes for hobby trucks, antique vehicles, farm trucks, fire trucks, recreational vehicles, or any other non-commercial use of a large vehicle. However, if you have apportioned tags on the vehicle, you are a CMV and are required to have a CDL to operate it whether you are hauling a load or not, on your personal time or on company business.

382.107: Commercial motor vehicle means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles USED IN COMMERCE to transport passengers or property if the vehicle --
also meets other requirements (1, 2, 3, 4)

383.5: A commercial motor vehicle (CMV) means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles USED IN COMMERCE to transport passengers or property IF the motor vehicle --
also meets certain other requirements (a, b, c, d)

390.5: Commercial motor vehicle means any self-propelled or towed motor vehicle USED ON A HIGHWAY IN INTERSTATE COMMERCE to transport passengers or property when the vehicle --
also meets certain requirements (1, 2, 3, 4)

Anywhere a CMV is defined in the regs, it is pretty specific about a requirement that the vehicle be used in commerce in order to be classified as a CMV. If that element is not met, it is not a CMV, and no CDL is required to operate it. You do, however, need to have the license classification qualifying you to drive a vehicle of it's size.

Just because a Class A or a Class B license is typically ALSO a CDL does not mean they MUST be a CDL. If you show up at the DMV with your personal B-truck plated F150 pickup truck and your TE plated 12,000 pound gooseneck horse trailer and pass the written and road tests, you can get a class A driver's license to be legal towing your horses from your property to the trail to go riding. It will not be a CDL, unless you also took and passed the CDL general knowledge test. You would also have restrictions stating no air brakes and that it was not good for a semi t/t....but it would still be a class A drivers license.

 

You are the one with the problem concerning commercial drivers license.

You have brought this up, not me.

THE OP CLEARLY stated it was not commercial so CDL would never be an issue.


Your post was clearly stating rules, so I clarified them and provided a link to support them.

You are doing nothing but showing yourself as arguements with a post that only you are stuck on.

 

That entire post wasn't directed at you....only the first sentence. You were a little quicker on the read/quote than I was with my edit when I realized I hadn't multi-quoted everyone I ended up addressing in the post.

 

Truth be known, there are several people that drive these semis and one that even pulls a trailer and claims he is private and does not have to meet the rules.

It always grates me on the bigger RV and air brakes and just about anyone can drive them without any additional training or license.

I would love to see the proper license being upheld for this, but the officers anymore are only interested in revenue, not safety for the most part. They will drive right past a private person with major defects because they do not want to jeopardize the revenue from the tourist industry. Yet not hesitate on the commercial vehicle with a light out.

 

Until truck drivers are a large enough voting block to matter, they will be treated like crap. Politicians only care about constituents and donors. Constituents vote. Donors fund their campaign.

I would venture to guess that a large majority of truck drivers probably don't make the effort to vote each and every election. They are on the road, so they can't just swing by the ballot box and cast their vote. They have to request an absentee ballot, which gets mailed to them...then they have to get home, complete the ballot, and mail it back in time for it to count. Things have become easier, though. Many states allow "early voting" during a week or two (sometimes more) before any election. There really isn't any reason you CAN'T vote as long as you are eligible to vote.

I would also venture to guess that a large majority of truck drivers probably have never made a political donation to a candidate running for office. A lot of people out here are here because they hit rock bottom. They were unemployed and this was a career-of-last-resort. They were so deep in the hole before they started that they have a long ways to go before they have any "discretionary" income which they can donate to a politician's campaign....especially when they are working for chump change paying off their debt to a "starter" company who owns their soul for the first year of their career.

So, truck drivers aren't likely voters, and they aren't likely campaign donors....so why would any politician give a rip what truck drivers want or need? Look through the regulations. #### near EVERY special exemption you'll find is granted to a dependable voting block with money to make campaign donations. Same rings true with the tax code, and #### near everything else government-related. If you can afford to fund a politician's campaign, and he can count on you to vote for him and bring your friends to the polls to vote for him too, he'll look out for you when he's elected. If you can't, or won't, or don't....he'll politely let you THINK he's listening as your words pass in one ear and out the other.

 

Study the handbook, take the road test and you don't have to worry. DO NOT drive the truck down there to take the test! Get a friend ect too. If you do you will be issued a ticket right there! Iv'e seen this happen way too much.

 

whats a class C and D cdl's.. vermont only has A and B

 

class d is not usually a CDL. In Florida a class C is usually for limo drivers, and smaller buses (16 or less passengers). Class E is standard license up to 10k gvwr, class D up to 26k. Over 26k and commercial use, then a class B is needed. trailer over 10k, and commercial use then class A is needed. trailer over 10k non commercial use, then class D.

Again every state has different rules. Any body with specific questions would be wise to check with his/her home states DMV and DOT.

 

I don't believe Florida has the Class D anymore. I used to have one when I was a volunteer firefighter, but when I renewed my license here a few months ago Class D wasn't an option.