CDL or Non CDL????

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by volvodriver01, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. carrkool

    carrkool Heavy Load Member

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    see i just looked in the PA CDL book and it cleary say only for vehicles requiring a CDL A or B or a Class C which is a normal car lin with hazmat. So in pa if you where hauling water in that truck you would not need a cdl or tanker endorsmetn according the PA regs. thats the trick though is its by state so if you cross state lines you better be good in their eyes as well now the cdl levels for weight are the same though some states like calli require a cdl for any driving jobs weither its a car or big truck. So best advise i can give is to grab your states CDL book and know where you will be hauling to and what you are hauling and go from there....
     
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  3. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    He runs in Indiana only. Hauls human waste. Truck will have his business name along with DOT numbers on the side of the truck. Don't know if that will make a difference or not..
     
  4. Jh1

    Jh1 Bobtail Member

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    Non CDL as long as the GVWR or GVW does not exceed 26k. Tanker endorsement does not apply to a Non CDL vehicle. If the vehicle in question exceeds 26k then a CDL with a tanker endorsement would be required.
     
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  5. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    Correct except that the GVWR is the only thing that matters, the GVW is not a factor (Nor is the registered weight) concerning a CDL.

    Best regards
     
  6. Anonymoususerreport

    Anonymoususerreport Bobtail Member

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    Hi,

    I see it differently.. If you go over 1000 gallons and/or haul hazmat you would need a class C cdl.. Doesn't a 2200 gallon tank make that 26,000 pound vehicle a CDL vehicle just as hazmat would ?

    They should get rid of that 26,000 pound rule and change it to 10,000 anyway... If you ask me..
     
  7. CondoCruiser

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    You need a Class C with Hazmat and Tanker endorsements. A regular car license is a class D in every state I had a license in.
    EDIT after checking: PA has a regular class C and a commercial class C. Your license should have the word "CDL or Commercial" on it. Still need the endorsements.

    http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/driverLicensePhotoIDCenter/license_classes.shtml

    Though this question is a combination vehicle a straight truck would also apply.




     
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  8. Scalemaster

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    Indiana CDL manual here: http://www.in.gov/bmv/files/CDL_Manual.pdf

    Tank endorsement required only if the GVWR of the vehicle exceeds 26,000#, which would require a class A or B CDL.

    CMV regs kick in at 10,001# GVWR, including medical cards, log books, markings, etc.
     
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  9. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    What state are we talking about? :)

    I was playing off carrkool's post.
     
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  10. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    OP said driver was operating intra-state Indiana.

    No HM involved, just a 2,200 gallon tank.
     
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  11. Ghost Ryder

    Ghost Ryder Road Train Member

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    Indiana mirrors most other states.

    Class A vehicle =

    Any combination vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 LBS or more, provided the vehicle being towed has a GVWR of 10,001 LBS or more

    Class B vehicle =

    Any vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 LBS or more

    Class C vehicle =

    Any vehicle that does not fit the description of class A or B, yet that is designed to carry more than 16 passengers or hauls more than 500 LBS of hazmat.

    The OP's vehicle would not need a class A or B CDL, being that it's GVWR is under 26,001 LBS. If his employer used the tank to haul placarded hazmat, then the OP would need a class C with a hazmat endorcement. However, the addition of that tank may have surpassed the GVWR of that particular vehicle. Having the appropiate license doesn't mean squat when your vehicle is overweight. The bridge formula applies to box trucks also.
     
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