Cdl permit

I don't think this is one of those questions with a simple and quick answer. A trainer can not drive once past that 14 hours on duty until they have took a 10 hour break. This is the rule. By the time a trainer has took a 10 the student should have also took a 10 and can drive again. Also I have a serious doubt most of the carrier safety dept's are going to allow a trainer to do this. Most trainers are paid both to train and all the miles the truck gets. There is a reason this happens. I also know of several carriers that have a policy for their trainers that they should always be able to take over in any situation. So the answer is FMCSA rules would be depends and according to carrier rules in almost every situation NO.

 

The 60/70 hour rule is not the problem. The 14 is.

 

Yes. He can always go past his 14/70 so long as he is in duty and not driving.

In fact if he is out of hours and you have the hours to get the truck to wherever you will be getting a reset, that's perfect.


BTW, if he's in the driver's seat you are fine. Don't worry about his logbook. That's his problem. If he's logging illegally that's on him not on you.

 

First lets remember we are not talking about paper logs anymore. Because I am ignorant how e logs work I can't say for sure about anything. However a trainer can not drive once they pass that 14 hour on duty mark. Im going to go back to my comment about carrier rules. Carrier rules are the governing rule on this subject. By this I mean their safety dept's are the ones that see this information. I do know some carriers match a trainers hours to the students in their systems. So I'm going back to my first comment. FMCSA rules maybe depending. Carrier rules in most every case is NO.

Edited to add this. Every person I know that trains has told me that their carrier requires that they be able to legally hop into the drivers seat at anytime. Again I'm not quoting FMCSA rules. I'm refering to carrier training/safety dept policy.

 

I don't disagree with that, but I will point out that that too is the trainer's problem, not the trainee's.

 

Actually I think it is an overall training problem complicated by today's nanny state.

 

Best answer do not worry about the trainer logbook, worry about your own, Personally when I have been training drivers I only show about 50 percent on duty, no reason to waste hours. But thats a real world answer.

 

I'm not asking this to be argumentative. I am only asking simply because I do not know. With e logs can you continue to do this?

 

With Elogs the trainer could log as on duty, off duty or sleeper berth without affecting the other drivers driveline, 2 cannot be on line 3 at the same time.