ch robertson sued 25 million

Discussion in 'Shippers & Receivers - Good or Bad' started by Redrider, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    In a lawsuit.....every hand that "touches" that freight is a target....

    Remember that next time you drive in traffic...There are people out there who make it a career suing carriers......
     
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  3. phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    you're comparing totally different things there! Of course *IM* a target, im DRIVING the truck.

    CH shouldn't be a target. They're a broker. I hate CH, but this sets a very bad precedent. It's up to the carrier to follow FMCSA and make sure that the freight gets there safely. Brokers do not have cargo insurance, do not have trucks, do not have drivers, .... and the only way they could REMOTELY have ANY responsibility, is if there was PROOF that they had insisted that the load be delivered in violation of the FMCSA. Most carriers record phone calls for "training and customer service purposes", so it wouldnt be hard to have proof of it if it did happen. But come on. Why would a BROKER ever do that? If it's that hot, they can have a team expedite it. Or find a driver who isnt out of hours.

    If brokers are not required to have cargo insurance, commercial auto insurance, do not employ drivers, do not own trucks, then HOW is it REMOTELY their fault? Why is it not good enough to go after the carrier's commercial auto, general business liability insurance, then to sue the carrier, and the driver? Notice that CH only had to pay a $5 million deductible, because they already had an insurance policy to take care of STUPID #### like this. Because they know how to stay in business. Can you seriously expect me to believe the carrier didn't have the same thing? COME ON.

    Besides that, I bet it wasn't the truckers fault the accident happened anyway!

    When you send a UPS package via ground, it gets thrown on a set of triples or doubles and pulled by a truck tractor. What if the UPS trucker hauling the PACKAGE THAT YOU SHIPPED wrecked and someone died? Do you deserve to be sued?

    What if you didn't even ship it, hate UPS, but you bought a product and paid the shipping cost to have it UPSed, because that was the only carrier that the shipper uses? You paid for the shipment. Should you get sued?

    It makes JUST AS MUCH SENSE as ch getting sued in this case. come ON.


    Also, I point out that the load that was being hauled was potatoes. Potatoes do not even belong on an OTR truck. With modern technology, they can be grown ANYWHERE. I've grown them before, and they are a very compact crop.
     
  4. ironeagle2006

    ironeagle2006 Road Train Member

    This is CH Robinson is UNDER THE LAW a Motor Carrier and was basically doing a Trip Lease for whatever they charge. Yes they may not have trucks persay however they are the ones that BOOKED THE LOAD THEY COLLECT FIRST THEN CUT THE CHECK FOR THE NEXT CARRIER IN LINE. See in the eyes of the court that carrier was doing a Trip Lease with them with his truck.

    Also Robinson has a bigger issue to worry about there is a 100 million dollar case in the works for Sex and Workplace Discrimination stating Hostile Work Enviroment at them.
     
  5. Dr Demented

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    Personally, I don't understand the hatred of CHR...the freight I've seen from them has always been over $2/mile. You might need to negotiate to get that but, as in all things, you have the right to turn down the freight if it's not paying enough.

    As for this case, I don't see how they are liable...but we all know that civil trial lawyers sue everyone and aim right for whoever has the biggest pockets. Sounds like the jury was biased against trucking companies to me. The judgment probably won't stand through appeal.
     
  6. supdty93

    supdty93 Light Load Member

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    ####, you must be a partner at that outfit. Are you serious? from what I have read on the site they are a forewarder of frieght of some refute. Please enlighten me on how well respected they are. Please pardon my call name for you. Have a good day.
     
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  7. javelinjeff

    javelinjeff Medium Load Member

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    $2.00 a mile?????? maybe on 35 mile loads,,LOL. Best long distance van load i've pulled for them recently was $1.59 a mile,,,and that was after negotiation,,,they started at $1.29
     
  8. HardlyWorkingNeverHome

    HardlyWorkingNeverHome Heavy Load Member

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    We were pulling $3 a mile certain loads 270-350 miles. Most loads were flat rate $650 plus lumper back 2 years ago.
     
  9. sandman1976

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    i've not seen many dry van loads that pay over $1.50/mi,i guess if that's what you pull all of the time you know what dry freight pays.
     
  10. ChromeDome

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    I have hauled quite a few of there loads on flatbeds.
    They all paid 2.00 or more a mile, but they were 400-600 mile runs.
    The company I was pulling for just used them for back hauls though. We would not take anything under 1.60 cpm, and the Maine freight we grabbed from them allot was 2.00.
     
  11. Dr Demented

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    I'm not a partner or anything...I've just drove for owner operators in the past and had to go looking for my own freight a few times when I was stuck sitting. The few times I pulled for CHR, the freight was usually getting me back from Texas area to around Indiana/Illinois and paid over $2/mile plus lumper fees. Sometimes it would take a little bit of arguing, but I'd get the rate I wanted because I got a percentage of the load as the driver and I wanted the owner-op to make enough money to pay his bills too. Sometimes it would mean calling on several loads, and refusing a lot of them...but when his dispatch was crying about not being able to find good paying freight, I always seemed to be able to find it with a little arguing and haggling.
     
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