I have ran under my own numbers and CH Robinson will pay a lot more than LS IF they are very desperate for a truck and you are a good negotiater with them. They will never offer a high rate upfront. It is up to you to negotiate it out of them when you smell their desperation. Not to mention you will take 100% of that revenue and not have to share 35% of it with LS.
ch robinson vs landstar-who pays better
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by javelinjeff, Dec 12, 2008.
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Your talking about leasing or trip leasing to Landstar. I NET more than that as a company driver. I keep going thru these lease options and can not figure out why anyone would sign them.
Your not your own boss either way. You don't take home more money than a decent company pays to drivers.
I just do not get it, your being ripped off and you are not profiting from your sweat and pain.
If your going to do this put in some effort first, make good contacts direct with the people you pick up from, and deliver to, Get business cards, give out something stupid, like I give away Bazooka Bubble Gum, Go head and laugh here. I even give it to the guys at the Nevada NB inspection, and CA Bug inspection station. Dead serious when they see me setting in line they open the extra lane and close it behind me, I also give them coke out of the ice in the summer, or on occasion a subway. But it works.
It works because it makes them feel like you remember them, which in turn makes them remember you, shippers, receivers, fuel attendant. Everybody appreciates the little extra thought.
Any how, get your own authority. Use your contacts. Get 3.00 to 5.00 dollars a mile. Is it more work, yes. The reason I don't is that I had my own company, sold it and there is a non-compete clause that keeps me from competing in the trucking industry. Can't sit at home so I drive.Gears Thanks this. -
Use your contacts. Get 3.00 to 5.00 dollars a mile.
5.00 a mile usually only goes 50-100 miles. 3.00 a mile for a few loads are achievable but they usually don't go further than 800-900 miles and the return load pays a 3rd of that. -
So......if you do a weeks worth of these short hauls that pay very well per mile.......just how much money, more or less, are you making??
Are you ahead or behind after wear and tear, fuel etc?????
What you're trying to say just doesn't make any sense.
In other words.....figure backhauling into your rate if you gotta come out empty.
If someone is paying $5 a mile for a 100 mile short haul......I'd be all over it........you can make money on a steady diet of just doing those for the week.
Provided you don't have to sit with the loads overnight or the weekend etc.......warehousing is extra. -
You say LS takes 35%, that is with their trailer, with your trailer it is 27 to 23%. Does CHR give you a free trailer? -
I talked to a LS recruiter and they gave me a passcode to use to see their website. It was only good for like 5 sign in's then it expired. They used to give it out to peoiple who were sitting on the fence and wanted to see for themselves what the rates were.. You could hammer away all day on it researching...
Ya might check with LS and see if they still do that? OR get with a LS drive some day in a truckstop and see his laptop.. most will be happy to let you look for a bit.. If you sign on and use their truck# they'll get a bonus. -
gonzo....there is no bonus....never has been
and i have never heard of them giving anyone but a BCO access to our board, most BCO's protect thier login and password very well.....if you get cought lending it out you lose yer lease
sorry but my livelyhood is worth a whole lot more to me, than letting you play around on a load boardNative Dancer Thanks this. -
No,but since when did it cost 27% to have your own trailer? My point is that you have a lot more negotiating power with your own authority if CHR is desperate for a truck. A load that you can squeeze 2.50pm from CHR might pay 2.00pm or less by an LS agent. I used to be with LS before I became independent. When LS agents had a hard time covering a load they would hand it over to their brokerage which in turn would start looking for outside carriers. Sometimes they would sell the load to other brokerages. -
That passcode is for the loadboard for outside carriers. The BCO board is a different one altogether. -
That is the problem. There ISN'T a steady diet of these short hauls that pay 3.00-5.00 a mile. The same shipper is not going to have loads everyday for 100 miles that pay 500.00.
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