CHAINING...are you ready?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by otherhalftw, Oct 22, 2011.

  1. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Well...the comment about shutting down instead of chaining to get through the bad part....many companies are having their drivers do just that, shut down, then deliver on a new schedule. One could take that decision two ways:
    1. The company does not trust their drivers to maintain their rigs/loads under such conditions.
    2. The company knows their drivers have little or no experience in the bad conditions...it's easier to have them wait, than to teach them how to manage the conditions.

    Either way...it shows that so many drivers aren't the "professionals" they claim to be. A "professional" learns to adapt to all conditions, and to find the way to get the freight delivered on time and safely along with completely intact.

    To J. Michael...have you ever tried to drive with chains...have ever tried to throw iron? Chains don't do you any good on ice...but snow is another thing. My "distance record" running on iron was from Spokane, WA...ID, MT, ND, MN, WI, and we took them off just before Chicago. Most of the trip was actually at better than 55 mph...snow pack was perfect, temp was cold enough to offer steer traction, and the other 10 or so trucks were all capable hands with both their driving and their communication on the CB...fantastic trip....oh yes...my student loved every minute after the first hour when she found out it was good to go.

    But, bottom line....it is fine with me if you guys/gals want to wait out the storm and the chains.....that leaves the hill open for myself and the other "professional" truckers....we only have to dodge the idiot 4 wheelers making their "new adventure" in the snow!
     
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  3. Okieron

    Okieron Crusty Okie

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    There's a BIG difference between Ice and Snow ! and yes I would prefer to shut down, but there are times that it is safe and times you just STOP ! It takes a professional to know when that is.
     
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  4. Working Class Patriot

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    I love winter....My rates to CO, WY, SD, and WA go up......
     
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    cariboo_kid Medium Load Member

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    Yeah I deserve that a bit, knew it as I typed it. However I was responding in kind to his attitude towards others, mocking those who would make proper use of chains to get their job done in a safe manner. Not everyone who uses chains in the course of a day's driving is an iceroad wannabe as he puts it.

    Everyone should know their limits and not be expected to go beyond them.

    Be safe out there! :)
     
  6. Ruges

    Ruges Light Load Member

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    I think your forgeting option 3. The company does not want to risk an accident damaging the cargo, or the safty record.

    And even good drivers can run into problems on snow and ice. Becouse its not just there driving skill that is depended upon. Its the drivers around them. You have driven in enough snow to have seen many accidents involving good drivers. where somone else looses control and takes out anouther truck. I am sure you have ran into the situation of going up or down a grade, and half way discovering the path blocked from several spun out vehicles.

    My company has a policy that they will pay us up to $100 a day not to drive in adverse weather conditions that we find unsafe to drive in. And I think thats a good way to go about it. They dont force us to stop, but they dont force us to go either. We get to decide when its to unsafe. Although its somthing I have only used twice. And both of them where becouse there was a sheet of ice and 50+MPH winds.

    Snow and ice I have no problem with, its predictable. Wind on the other hand, it scares the crap out of me.
     
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    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    Then you wouldn't like WY.....You get all three at once....What a deal eh?.......:biggrin_25524: :biggrin_25523:
     
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  8. otherhalftw

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    You forgot...coming and going...and sideways!:biggrin_25514:
     
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    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    True that....But just think...Sliding on ice saves on the wear and tear to the tires.....:biggrin_25524::biggrin_25523:
     
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  10. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Actually...your #3 in my opinion is within my #1! Risk and trust aren't that different...from the consideration and decision process from behind a desk.

    Yes...even the good and experienced drivers can become involved in situations that they just simply have no control over. That is why there are two types of "accidents"...preventable and non-preventable. Certainly anyone can place "preventable" on any situation...by taking the position of "you could have left 15 minutes earlier or later"...but we as drivers know this is the BS-CS stance, and is exactly that BS and CS!

    Taking out another truck and road blockage...well that comes right back to experience, and getting experience, to understand that in these wintery/stormy conditions...additional attention to all of your "compass points" is critical. The good driver, no matter the experience level, understands, and allows for, increased safety separation and decreased speed in these conditions.

    I would take this policy as an incentive to NOT GO...not necessarily a complete declaration that the driver needs to make a decision. Why go if you are going to get paid? Even though the chain zone will only last for 45 minutes to a little over an hour....total time including chaining on and off.

    Snow I agree...ice...even I don't play with, not when I have forewarning of it being there.
     
  11. striker

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    I get so tired of this line of thought. Are you aware that in some states, you might be sitting for 3 or 4 days waiting for that chain law to be lifted. Then what do you do? Can your bank account handle that light paycheck? I guess if your a one man operation that's fine, but if you work for a large fleet it's a different story. What happens if you park it because of the chain law and 20 of your co-workers put chains on and pass you by? I'll guarentee you dispatchers will keep that in mind in the future.

    Better yet, McD's is hiring!

    Hey, you should get a job with Vail and Assoc. here in Colo., you could be on the billboard telling truckers: WINTER IS HERE, CHAINS MAY BE REQUIRED, COLORADO DOESN'T WANT YOU HERE SO GO SOUTH, NO CHAINS NEEDED.
     
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