Changing from spoke to hub pilot

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  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I was wondering if anyone would know the cost of changing from a spoke wheel to a hub piloted wheel. These would be for heavy axles 46000 pound rears 20000 fronts.

    I don't have any specific numbers to give right now because I'm just looking at different trucks, and I see quite a few of them have the spoke Wheels rather than hub piloted.

    If I buy something like that I would prefer to change it over to HUB piloted if I can, because of ease of maintenance/ lighter aluminum wheels, etcetera.

    Just curious roughly would that would cost for me to do that to purchase the hubs
     
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  3. swaan

    swaan Road Train Member

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    It would be huge $$$ if you bought all new...

    I would go to a truck salvage yard and purchase all used .
    Your going to need the hubs and rims. Plus all new bearings and wheel seals.

    Don't forget the wheel nuts.

    I could see a fair price for everything about $1000. New you can prob triple that.
    But I may be way off.
     
  4. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    swaan is a cheep date on the new stuff. Also you are skipping from Dayton right over Budds to hub piloted. That is normally a lot of years and way not be compatible.
     
  5. spsauerland

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    Aluminum wheels will be most expensive part. Thing to watch is your current axle shafts. Mack run a variety six to eight studs. Most common is 8 stud 5/8". International uses 8 stud 3/4". Bearings are same on 38/40k and 46k axles... 572/580 592/594. Mack does use different outer bearing cone, but almost identical to 580. Think the fillet is different on radius if I recall. On steer, biggest concern is getting correct offset wheel that doesn't rub pitman arm.
     
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  6. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    Well I'm still looking. The trucks that I've been interested in have been sold pretty much.

    But at least now I have a better idea if I need to make the changeover.
     
  7. spsauerland

    spsauerland Road Train Member

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    Almost always cheaper to buy it the way you want it. Dayton setup does seem to hold up better to heavy loads. Good luck on finding one. Prices on dumps will shoot up in spring!
     
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  8. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    You know that's a very good point I hadn't even thought about.

    I have heard that before that the Dayton's hold up better under heavy loads. That's something to think about.

    Yes and definitely I am looking very hard to find the truck before spring!
     
  9. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    So are you looking for a classic ride?
     
  10. Dirty-Low-Walker

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    Don't know what State you are from but here in New Jersey the DOT checks tire rating and wheel rating, those accuride wheels that Paccar puts on sale are rated for only 7200 lbs., thats ok for a regular tractor or trailer but not good for a dump truck or a lowboy trailer.
     
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