Changing spacer blocks from 3" to 5" on the 5th wheel?

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  1. KDHCryo

    KDHCryo Medium Load Member

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  3. Lazer

    Lazer Road Train Member

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    Switch to a smaller tire size on the trailer(low profile)?
     
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  4. KDHCryo

    KDHCryo Medium Load Member

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    That's what I'm working with guys/gals....these pics are current and I have 45100 lbs in the barrel.

    You can see on the drive tires I'm pretty nose heavy. Fifth wheel all the way back on a 233" wheelbase cascadia 126.

    I have the air ride valve jacked so my airbags are fully extended.

    The truck is not experiencing any driveline issues currently, but I can't imagine this is an ideal setup to run.
     
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  5. KDHCryo

    KDHCryo Medium Load Member

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    I can't...I'm Tanker O/OP for Schneider and only haul their trailers. Drop and hook their stuff weekly.

    I could go Hi Profile on my drives, that's a thought...
     
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  6. Razororange

    Razororange Road Train Member

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    What are your weights at right now? Sliding your fifth wheel all the way to the back is only hurting your situation. You should only be sliding it back if you are too heavy on your steers.
     
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  7. special-k

    special-k Road Train Member

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    You can get higher 5th wheel pedestals. It's heavy dirty work but not particularly hard to do. That would be the route l would go.
     
  8. KDHCryo

    KDHCryo Medium Load Member

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    Yeah, probably best to call Fontaine and have them address my needs. I'm sure it's 6 bolts torqued to the proper spec, but I'm just scared of liability.

     
  9. KDHCryo

    KDHCryo Medium Load Member

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    No this is a tanker, not a dry van, I have the ### end air ride of my tractor jacked like a porn video in order to get the weight towards the trailer tandems.

    Liquid finds it's own level..
     
  10. Razororange

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    Yea I'm aware. But moving the fifth wheel will only transfer weight on the frame of the truck between the steers and drives. I understand that raising it up will let the liquid level slightly to the rear and taller risers might help.

    So again, what are your steer and drive weights?

    Also over extending the bags can lead to other issues. You might be over extending the shocks which can lead to blowing the seals in them. It also affects the U joint angles in the driveline which can cause them to fail prematurely.

    If you want to get a taller fifth wheel the risers are the correct way to do it. They aren't hard to change. Removing the fifth wheel plate is easy. Just have to pop the retaining pins/bolts off the sides of the plate then knock out the main pivot pins. You can then lift the main plate off and disassemble the slider. Some trucks the slider/risers are 1 welded piece so you'll either have to remove the tracks from the truck or cut it and weld the new parts in place.
     
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  11. North Pole Nightmare

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    Generally,get your 5th wheel up to around 54" height.
     
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