Chassis Cab and non-CDL

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  1. sabal_logistics

    sabal_logistics Bobtail Member

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    Sorry for the late reply on this:
    If DOT weighs you connected as a rule, then that leads me to the following question (and it is probably very naive sounding).
    When putting loads on my trailer, can i consider weight transfer in the equation? In other words, lets say my trailer has GVWR of 12800# and a GVW of 6800#, which leaves 6000# remaining to register on the trailer's rear axles when weighed. Furthermore let's say (earlier) I calculated my transfer weight when empty at 20%. Generally speaking (meaning i know load placement is a factor as well but let's not mention that for the sake of this question) assuming it is a perfect 20%, can I place 6000*1.20 = 7200# on the trailer and be legal?

    I am asking in general. Like, in general you can use this formula but know ALL the factors first and...get weighed before leaving if possible or at the next CAT scale.

    Thanks.
     
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  3. longhaultransport

    longhaultransport Light Load Member

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    All I have seen is under 26,000 gross, under axle weight based on tire ratings and under 65 feet long, you are fine.

    I've not seen or heard dot checking the data plate for being overweight on axles. Always by the tire weight rating.

    Not saying they couldn't, just never seen or heard it.
     
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  4. singlescrewshaker

    singlescrewshaker Road Train Member

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    You see where that sticker says "the weight of cargo shall never exceed". Over there on the right side..?

    That is where you can get into trouble with de-rating. The sticker will be below what the trailer can handle axle, let alone any weight transferred to the truck/tractor. I had a "smarter" state trooper in NY compare the weights listed on the BOL's of a couple of partials I had on deck to my sticker like that. I was under, but he said I'd have been shut down for having overloaded equipment..

    I follow what your saying. My gooseneck "could" have been rated up to 30k lbs the way it was spec'd. It was rated at 25900lb to avoid the 12% fet tax. It could carry 19,740lb - the tare of 10,260 for 30,000lb. But the decal said not to exceed 15,640lb, because it was de-rated to 25,900lb..

    I promptly tore off the sticker that evening, & continued loading it up to about 17k lb with that dodge.. LoL
    Maybe the sticker falls off.? Should be fine though..


    Now you have, LoL.! Just got to run into the right one.. ;)
    Also the 65' rule has no bearing on having a CDL A, or not.
    Some states allow over 65' with a pickup/flatbed. Best to just remove box/bed if over 65' so legal in all 48 states. Unless running just the few that allow those lenghts..
     
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  5. sabal_logistics

    sabal_logistics Bobtail Member

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    This post saved me a huge surprise when going to pick up my trailer...or worse first time getting weighed/inspected. This is the kind of post that saves your ###.

    Thanks for the heads up!

    Guys, I know you probably think I am crazy but the wife and I have decided this is happening. We still have a lot of things that have to bend our way before it is a reality but this venture is our plan going forward.

    I'm thinking about getting dispatch for a while just to help me out. After a while though, the wife will be dispatching and handling the business office.

    Two things I can promise if this happens: 1. I will always help out another trucker, whether in the forum or on the road; 2. No cheap freight.

    Say a little prayer, fellas.
     
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  6. Lite bug

    Lite bug Road Train Member

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    A good dispatch service having long-standing relationships with brokers, shippers, or companies that have direct freight can be invaluable. They are far and few in between. Those that are honest, knowledgeable are usually filled with o/o and have trouble taking on new clients. A broker will call a dispatch before posting the load board. Good luck in finding one. Try to find one on the half of the country you operate in.
     
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  7. rccarlson22

    rccarlson22 Medium Load Member

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    Good luck to ya bud, I just spent 7 hours on load boards and came out with an empty shipping container paying $1.64/mile, $1.52 after deadhead :/

    Not the greatest but it’s getting me home after 2 and 1/2 weeks otr
     
  8. Lite bug

    Lite bug Road Train Member

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    Enjoy time with your family.
     
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  9. Brandonpdx

    Brandonpdx Road Train Member

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    Lousy MPG with those too as an extra little slap in the face.
     
  10. longhaultransport

    longhaultransport Light Load Member

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    Man, you ain't joking.

    Probably break even at $1.52 lol :(
     
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  11. singlescrewshaker

    singlescrewshaker Road Train Member

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    Hey what's your home 20 if you don't mind me asking.?
    West central FL describes pretty much where I'm at too. Palmetto, fl is where I'm based..


    Edit: I confused the post a bit. LoL, I thought you was the fella dragging the container home..
     
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