Chinks in the armor

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Chasingthesky, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. Chasingthesky

    Chasingthesky Heavy Load Member

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    “The committee is concerned by reports of serious complications associated with implementation,” the report reads. “In light of the heavy burden of this mandate, especially on small carriers, the committee directs the Department to analyze whether a full or targeted delay in ELD implementation and enforcement would be appropriate.” The report asks FMCSA to produce its findings within 60 days.

    The language in the report is a sign that last-ditch efforts to have Congress derail the mandate in full or in part are gaining traction. The push for Congressional action comes after the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association’s attempts to have the court system overturn the mandate failed.

    Efforts to change ELD mandate for smaller carriers gain steam in Congress
     
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  3. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    all congress has to do is say
    "nope not going to happen yet"

    and let FMCSA deal with that. There is no justification on their part to do anything, they don't even have to have a reason, all they have to do is amend some bill and get it passed - boom!! done!

    However I don't think congress should make any special ruling for a small segment of the industry, if anything, they need to look at the wider picture, because livestock haulers are not a majority of small carriers.
     
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  4. Studebaker Hawk

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    This is a very narrow segment of the industry, livestock hauling. A group of representatives from farm states are massaging a small constituency, and when it doesn't make it any farther than another committee they can tell their farmers and livestock haulers "Well we tried, but were outvoted by city folk". Political maneuvering at its best. The ATA and various safety groups are not going to let this slip between their fingers.
    I have said it before. Try to explain to the American Public why you want to continue to falsify your HOS on a grid with pen, carbon paper and a ruler. "Honest Mr. John Q Public, I am doing it because it is safer". It doesn't pass the smell test.
     
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  5. STexan

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    I say we analyze the most recent 500 nationwide crashes involving a CMV and deaths. Let's see if one stands out well above the other between eLog truck and paper trucks.

    I'm guessing the actual numbers are roughly a 50/50 split, and IMO, micky mouse apps user trucks don't count as eLog truck.

    Am I over-simplifying things?
     
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  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    I'd bet more than 50% of the serious wrecks are elog equipped trucks. Also, look at serious (15+ mph) speeding infractions. A larger portion than you'd think possible of those are not only elog equipped, but also speed limited. The we all know the only places where those speed limited trucks CAN exceed the speed limit by that much, and it is in the worst possible places to do it.

    But hey, some pinhead created an algorithm demonstrating all of this crap makes the roads safer so it's GOTTA be true! Nevermind the fact that the real world involves variables those pinheads never take into account, or worse, they minimize to make the point they are being paid to make stand out that much more. Ignore the facts, 'cuz they got their computer models!
     
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  7. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    I imagine you're right. However I suspect you'll find most are "younger" meaning they may still be at their starter company, and virtually all mega starter companies are on eLogs.

    Plus, with the younger millennials, they're all about their technology and Facebook, YouTube'g, and 24/7 social networking.
     
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    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    ...and yet there was a push to allow 18 year olds to run interstate.:rolleyes:
     
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  9. Studebaker Hawk

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    Figures lie, and liars figure I believe is the old saying. Any honest analysis of post crash causes are going to take into account dozens of factors, the presence of an EOBR or ELD among them. To pin it on that one variable out of dozens would be a stretch.
     
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    Little too soon to say I told you so.
     
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  11. Chasingthesky

    Chasingthesky Heavy Load Member

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    @Ridgeline @Studebaker Hawk
    The language concerning livestock haulers was already in the DOT funding bill. This is a new development aimed at small carriers and O/o's in general. It might turn out to be nothing but at least lawmakers are taking notice now.
     
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