I have several years exp driving straight trucks. Mostly in the state Fl. I just recently upgraded to a Class A (no school, just went down and took the test, Passed no problems) I am wondering if my exp with a class b and straight trucks will help me, or hinder me in finding a an OTR job with the Class A? Most employers I see want 3-6 months exp. I can handle myself in a truck quite well, granted I understand pulling a trailer is different. I am basically wondering if I will get any consideration for the exp I have or would I be considered just another newbie, with 0 experience? Any 1 out there ever go this route before that can give me some tips on finding a decent company to work for? I understand that most companies regardless of my exp would still probably want me to go with a trainer short term just to get a feel for me, but would the exp I have make my training period shorter? I would like to go solo asap after starting, and hopefully with a company that offers a lease purchase.
I Know, lots of questions here, but looking for answers before turning in resignation with company I am currently working for. (not currently driving trucks. Just managing a bunch of O/O with 4 wheels)
Thanks in advance to any 1 with input on this issue.
Class B local to Class A OTR
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Shoestring, Jul 25, 2011.
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You'll probably have to go through a starter company like Swift, Roehl, etc.
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Shoestring Thanks this.
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Congratulations on getting the Class A and welcome to the TTR Forum.
Unfortunately local driving, even combination vehicles has little to no value for getting an OTR job. They don't count it as experience. So for all intents and purposes you nave no experience and no training. You have two chances of getting hired and they are slim and none with slim looking real bad. Sorry, just the truth. Your other problem is your location which removes a large part of your hiring opportunities too. Sorry to be so full of bad news.
Your most promising method of getting an OTR driving job will be going to school and then through the company training. Here's my standard advice for what it's worth.
You need to research and find out what the important questions are. You can make an above average living but you will make sacrifices that other jobs don't require. Read the "good companies" and "bad companies" section on this forum and get an idea of what company you want to work for and what kind of trailer you want to pull. Don't just go to school and then try to figure out where to go.
I don't know your financial situation. Don't take training from a company if you can afford it or get it with financial aid. You will be their slave for up to year. If you leave they will trash you DAC and credit record. Check out your local community colleges and employment office.
Just know that most training and trucking company recruiters will do nothing but lie to you. They will let you talk about what you want and then tell you what you want to hear. Trucking is about moving freight to make money for the company. Your home time, family, paycheck and everything else comes second.
It is not like any other job. Local is usually backbreaking delivery work 10+ hours a day, 6 days a week. Often you unload dozens of times a day or you are a salesman. In my area most dump truck jobs pay less than a good factory job. Regional is lots of loading and unloading time, fewer miles than OTR and not as hard as local but will wear on you and push your HOS limits. OTR is out 3 - 5 weeks with 3 - 4 days home, less manual labor and more miles.
You'll probably have to pay your dues before you get the gravy job. Weekends off, if you are lucky enough to get something like that starting out, may be home Thursday afternoon and leave Saturday night or home Friday night and leave Sunday afternoon. Loads deliver on Monday early and you leave in time to get them there. Often your home time will be in the middle of the week.
Regardless of your driving choice, after school you will go through company training. For OTR this can be six weeks to three months with little or no home time. The first phase is usually $400 a week and the second phase is $500-550 a week. Some pay less. One company pays 12 CPM for training.
You don't want to wait around too long after training or you'll have trouble finding a job. If you get out before you have a year in, when you try to come back a few months later you will find they want you to start over.
One last thing, if you have anything that makes you less desirable than your competing job applicants, a phone or in-person interview will often bring the best results. Even if I am the best candidate I will choose face-to-face if at all possible and phone if not. Sure you may have to fill out that online application but that isn't the best way to get a good job. You have to do something or be someone who stands out from the crowd. Do regular follow-ups by phone on the jobs you really want.
Stay away from lease/purchases unless you want to get statements with negative balances instead of paychecks. There is plenty of good information on this forum about these, please read up before you make a big mistake.Shoestring Thanks this. -
How hard is it to find loads for an independent. My credit is all right, I could get a truck, DOT, MC and all that good stuff. I figure a cheap used truck go OTR for a year or two. Would that count as experience?
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I was thinking about hauling cars with a single axle freightliner and 3-4 car hot shot awhile back. My insurance agent (Progressive) said I was insurable and quoted me a decent rate. (At least I think it was decent) He said my 7 years exp in straight trucks was good enough for them. So I don't think insurance is an issue. Most people I talked to at the time that were hauling cars that way, said they had no issues getting their authority from DOT. most of them didn't even have their CDL yet when they applied for their authority. Of course they were using f350 and f450 duallys.
I am just trying to figure out what my options are, I can't see spending all the money for a school when I have already spent days and weeks in a truck with guys that have 30+ years exp. I am sure I don't know everything, but I know a heck of a lot more then most kids coming right out of school.
I have experienced tire blowouts, front right float went at 70 mph once. Scared the hell out of me, but I managed to keep it on the road.(took every last bit of strength I had to hold it straight. I am sure the adrenaline that started pumping helped). Came over an over pass at 65 one day with 2000 gallons of bulk liquid and a bunch of equipment on board, nothing but stopped cars 100 yards in front of me. No room to stop, right shoulder blocked, took the center median it was the only place I had to go.(well I guess I could of just plowed into about 20 or 30 cars like the guy that came over about 3 minutes later.)
I hope I am not coming off as ####y. I am just trying to say that I do have exp handling a truck. Driving with trainer is completely understandable. Companies want one of their own to evaluate and rate your skill. understood. Just don't understand why the school thing is such a big deal. I took my test at a local school, I watched some of the people there go out on the road for practice. It was scary how they drove, and they were taking their tests in another day or two. I could understand some one that has never driven a truck before needing school. I am sure it would be very informative and helpful.
I just can't justify spending that amount of money for a school. Just to learn the basics again 7 years later. I chatted up the instructor at the school I took my test at. He told my everything they teach there. It was basically just what was needed to pass the permit tests and what not.
I do appreciate all the advice.
Any one else have any suggestions, or do I just need to apply to some of the starter companies and sell my self. (just keep calling em till they give in and give me a chance. lol )Last edited: Jul 26, 2011
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I really don't think the starter companies will hire you without training. Insurance is one reason and the money they make from the training process is another.
I will say your last post was pretty convincing. If I were you, I would start calling small companies and put an ad in the "Seek Employment" section of this forum.
You could also move to Texas or North Dakota and get a job hauling water in the oilfields. -
I thought about the oil fields up in NoDak, lived there for 25 years before moving down to Florida about 10 years ago. Don't know which one I dislike more. the extreme cold up there or the extreme heat and humidity down here.
Problem with NoDak right now is housing, there just isnt enough for the amount of workers they are bringing in. I heard from my folks the other day that the oil companies are having to bring in military style tent cities just to keep up with the demand. Suppose I could stay at the parents about 150 miles from the oil fields, just have to deal with the 3 hour drive each way each day. -
Roehl in Wisconsin has a tuition reimbursement plan. If you drive 120,000 miles for them, you don't have to pay nada. If you can make it at least 6 months, you'll have half the tuition paid off.
Also, when did you get you Class A? Was it within 30 days? If so, you can maybe get hired as a "recent grad" depending if your school is approved by the company.Shoestring Thanks this.
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