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Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by spindrift, Feb 6, 2023.

  1. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Besides the words in an ad what info do you have about the company? They can put you in contact with other "independent contractors" if they are so desperate for drivers. Ask them how long they have worked there? Where do they run? How much are they saving for taxes? What are the conditions of the trucks? What problems have they had at the company? If they answer they have no problems, then you know you are speaking to the dispatcher or manager and not to an "independent contractor." Scams work because the victim is willing to convince them self. The crook doesn't have to supply every detail and answer every question, just provide an empty box in which the victim will put their own answers.

    What would be your advice for me be if I told you I had a deep desire to be a coal miner but I lived in FL and will not move?
     
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  3. Long FLD

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    That sounds like an employee that should be paid on a W2. Companies like this and people willing to do it are the reason why the government wants to crack down on it. And when they crack down on it the effect will also be felt by those of us who are legitimate 1099 contractors because of those who do things illegally.
     
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  4. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Is the offer from the company "we pay you $300 per day, plus every expense you have, and pay for your hotel." Or is the offer "we pay you $300 plus hotel and you have to pay for fuel, pay insurance, pay tolls, pay lumpers, etc . In the first offer you get revenue of $300 per day from the company and you pay ZERO expenses. They pay all expenses for operating the truck (fuel, insurance, tolls, rent/truck payment, etc). In the second example the company pays you $300 per day and if it costs you more or less than $300 to operate the truck (you pay all expenses) that is your problem.
     
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  5. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Who is providing the truck, finding the customers, setting appointments, paying expenses? If you are driving, and only driving, you are volunteering to help the company defraud the IRS. If you are required to pay truck expenses from your $300/day then you probably are an independent contractor and will need to save 30% of each settlement check to pay various Federal and state taxes. Every dollar you make above $18-19k increases the taxes taken from your Social Security tax. I believe for each dollar above $18-19k you pay either 1/3 or 2/3 tax rate. I haven't started taking Social Security so I'm fuzzy on the non-SocSec income rules other than knowing you have to pay them. I would rather live under a bridge than have the IRS coming after me again. Tax cheating companies have a good reputation for cheating drivers. Don't assume anything when looking for work.
     
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  6. Ridgeline

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    While my peers are saying scam scam scam, what does the contract say?
     
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  7. spindrift

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    I've been in the game long enough to understand what the perils of a 1099 might be. With all due respect to the earlier posters, I was simply looking for opinions on the rate, which is negotiable...to a degree. Because of the nature of the work, many of the "employees" are paid 1099. As I said, I know the company and they're good people. I don't haver a penny coming out of my pocket for anything.
     
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  8. LTL Bull

    LTL Bull Road Train Member

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    I did answer your question. That rate is mediocre for a W-2 employee and a slap in the face for a 1099 gig whether you like other’s opinions on the legitimacy of being paid 1099. You didn’t answer my question, why do they want to pay you as a 1099 contractor if you’re functioning as an employee. “because that’s how they do it “ is not going to cut the mustard. I’d tell them for that amount to pay you under the table if you’re only doing it once in awhile and are willing to accept the pitfalls of that set up
     
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  9. Long FLD

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    But if they pay him cash under the table then they don’t get to write off the non-employee compensation paid to him and that won’t benefit them at all like paying on a 1099 does.
     
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  10. LTL Bull

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    Hadn’t thought of it that way, good point. I know how he’s thinking about this I think. He’s figuring he’s only doing it part time to keep him busy and doesn’t really see the problem with being paid 1099. Can’t say I blame him, it’s become so commonplace they don’t think twice about it and don’t think it’s an issue
     
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  11. spindrift

    spindrift Road Train Member

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    Correct...I'm retired now. Looking to earn enough by the end of the month to buy a dozen roses for my wife.
     
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