This was what the driver said on twitter; and walmart CLAIMS it's not something the driver said, but I'm thinking, how does WALMART know or not know in an instant his twitter handle/feed....another BS lie from walmart
The biography section of the account bearing the name of Kevin Roper now reads, Trying to win more than lose! Driving trucks for a living #Walmart.
He also writes: MOVE OVER OR GET HIT
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...math-accident-article-1.1821642#ixzz34D9tCy6T
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I'll probably get all kinds of flak on this, but this IS a blog, right? You know what's crazy and convoluted about this, is drugs probably would have eliminated all this. Now before you throw your arms up in the air, hear me out. I know, nowadays drugs are ultra taboo, but "a little help" has been around truck drivers for ever. Dave Dudley sung about them back in 1963 with "6 days on the road", and I'm sure it still goes on today. The old saying for pro druggies always was, "what, is it better I fall asleep and kill someone"? Well, the anti druggies say, "If you need drugs , you shouldn't be out there". And while that's true, look what has happened to our industry. Most of the people that did drugs to stay awake got out, (or were forced out) however, America still wants it's goods "on the shelf" tomorrow, and like it or not, it was drugs that spoiled us, that allowed that to happen. Tired truck driver crashes have been on the rise for years, and lobbyists scream, "we need more trucks, so drivers don't have to drive as long". Baloney, we can't fill the trucks we have, and the drivers we do have can't stay awake. Talk to any old-timer, and while it was swept under the rug, "a little help" was the norm, it was part of the job. Years ago, I was having trouble staying awake, and I admit, I experimented with "a little help", because I had no choice, it was my job, and I HAD to stay awake, and like it or not, IT WORKED. I got out of driving because I knew it wasn't accepted, and just can't stay awake that long anymore, and I'm not alone. It seems everyone dances around this, and we never talk about it, and clearly drugs aren't the answer,( although, I heard, they DO give them to fighter pilots to stay awake on their way to killing people) but my point about all this, is our country is spoiled with, "why isn't my lettuce on the shelf", and my response would be, "because in the past, some driver had " a little help" to get it there. Don't lambaste me on this. If you can't accept what I said, you are living with your head in the sand, it's just how it was years ago.
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"semi" retired - I realize that folks used "a little help" back in the day. But I disagree with your premise that "the drivers we do have can't stay awake". I stay awake just fine with a little caffeine during my shift and plenty of sleep when I'm not driving. I also feel no pressure to stop and take a nap whenever I'm tired.
I remember sitting at a Howard Johnson's counter on the Penn Turnpike back in '77, next to a trucker that was popping "a little help" and gulping coffee and shaking so bad he was spilling coffee all over the counter and talking a mile a minute about how he hadn't slept in three days and had to get to Chicago within the next 12 hours. No thanks to that scenario. I'd rather not be on the road with pill poppers. Caffeine is plenty effective, sleep is more effective.Lux Prometheus, Moving Forward, Shaggy and 1 other person Thank this. -
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[QUOTE="semi" retired;4065268]I'll probably get all kinds of flak on this, but this IS a blog, right? You know what's crazy and convoluted about this, is drugs probably would have eliminated all this. Now before you throw your arms up in the air, hear me out. I know, nowadays drugs are ultra taboo, but "a little help" has been around truck drivers for ever. Dave Dudley sung about them back in 1963 with "6 days on the road", and I'm sure it still goes on today. The old saying for pro druggies always was, "what, is it better I fall asleep and kill someone"? Well, the anti druggies say, "If you need drugs , you shouldn't be out there". And while that's true, look what has happened to our industry. Most of the people that did drugs to stay awake got out, (or were forced out) however, America still wants it's goods "on the shelf" tomorrow, and like it or not, it was drugs that spoiled us, that allowed that to happen. Tired truck driver crashes have been on the rise for years, and lobbyists scream, "we need more trucks, so drivers don't have to drive as long". Baloney, we can't fill the trucks we have, and the drivers we do have can't stay awake. Talk to any old-timer, and while it was swept under the rug, "a little help" was the norm, it was part of the job. Years ago, I was having trouble staying awake, and I admit, I experimented with "a little help", because I had no choice, it was my job, and I HAD to stay awake, and like it or not, IT WORKED. I got out of driving because I knew it wasn't accepted, and just can't stay awake that long anymore, and I'm not alone. It seems everyone dances around this, and we never talk about it, and clearly drugs aren't the answer,( although, I heard, they DO give them to fighter pilots to stay awake on their way to killing people) but my point about all this, is our country is spoiled with, "why isn't my lettuce on the shelf", and my response would be, "because in the past, some driver had " a little help" to get it there. Don't lambaste me on this. If you can't accept what I said, you are living with your head in the sand, it's just how it was years ago.[/QUOTE]
Note: This is a direct comment to the above poster, and not a commentary on the accident in this thread.
Say you need a "little help" to stay awake. Fine, that's dandy. But what happens when said driver runs out of "a little help."
Do they crash? Do they turn to criminal methods to obtain said "a little help."
Further, what happens when a driver using "a little help" does crash and IS drug tested and then is promptly thrown in pound in the ### prison?
Bottom line is, if you are involved in a crash and have drugs in your system you will not only ever drive again, but will most likely never see your family again unless through the bullet proof pane of a prison.
Did you really just type this?
You know what would work to curb fatigue? Shippers, Receivers, and the trucking industry as a whole to begin shipping on a schedule... one that transport companies can schedule drivers to service around the clock (i.e. day shifts, night shifts). It works in a local/regional gig, why can't they figure it out for irregular route drivers?
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[QUOTE="semi" retired;4065268]I'll probably get all kinds of flak on this, but this IS a blog, right? You know what's crazy and convoluted about this, is drugs probably would have eliminated all this. Now before you throw your arms up in the air, hear me out. I know, nowadays drugs are ultra taboo, but "a little help" has been around truck drivers for ever. Dave Dudley sung about them back in 1963 with "6 days on the road", and I'm sure it still goes on today. The old saying for pro druggies always was, "what, is it better I fall asleep and kill someone"? Well, the anti druggies say, "If you need drugs , you shouldn't be out there". And while that's true, look what has happened to our industry. Most of the people that did drugs to stay awake got out, (or were forced out) however, America still wants it's goods "on the shelf" tomorrow, and like it or not, it was drugs that spoiled us, that allowed that to happen. Tired truck driver crashes have been on the rise for years, and lobbyists scream, "we need more trucks, so drivers don't have to drive as long". Baloney, we can't fill the trucks we have, and the drivers we do have can't stay awake. Talk to any old-timer, and while it was swept under the rug, "a little help" was the norm, it was part of the job. Years ago, I was having trouble staying awake, and I admit, I experimented with "a little help", because I had no choice, it was my job, and I HAD to stay awake, and like it or not, IT WORKED. I got out of driving because I knew it wasn't accepted, and just can't stay awake that long anymore, and I'm not alone. It seems everyone dances around this, and we never talk about it, and clearly drugs aren't the answer,( although, I heard, they DO give them to fighter pilots to stay awake on their way to killing people) but my point about all this, is our country is spoiled with, "why isn't my lettuce on the shelf", and my response would be, "because in the past, some driver had " a little help" to get it there. Don't lambaste me on this. If you can't accept what I said, you are living with your head in the sand, it's just how it was years ago.[/QUOTE]
As you should get "flak". The only thing that cures fatigue is rest. To say that drugs could've prevented it shows EXACTLY why they decided to regular the piss out of us. You didn't need drugs. You needed sleep. This is one of the most asinine and irresponsible comments I've ever seen on TTR.unloader, drvrtech77, peterd and 3 others Thank this. -
Hahhaaha did the dude just compare fighter pilots to truck driving? Apples and ####roaches. Fighter pilot (aviators) has a co-pilot and those stupid things called computers to navigate ( assist ) the tin tube.
different worlds. "fighter pilot" can't just abandon a aircraft during a mission and move onto next gig LMAO !
You older folks welcomed regulation and brought this upon the new generations. Blame yourselves for the mistakes and hopped up crap was caught with.
The baby boomers are a bunch of sissys and went down hill from then. You made a bunch more sissys and those sissys brought on the video game no kid can play "safe" after dark sissys.Last edited: Jun 10, 2014
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[QUOTE="semi" retired;4065268]I'll probably get all kinds of flak on this, but this IS a blog, right? You know what's crazy and convoluted about this, is drugs probably would have eliminated all this. Now before you throw your arms up in the air, hear me out. I know, nowadays drugs are ultra taboo, but "a little help" has been around truck drivers for ever. Dave Dudley sung about them back in 1963 with "6 days on the road", and I'm sure it still goes on today. The old saying for pro druggies always was, "what, is it better I fall asleep and kill someone"? Well, the anti druggies say, "If you need drugs , you shouldn't be out there". And while that's true, look what has happened to our industry. Most of the people that did drugs to stay awake got out, (or were forced out) however, America still wants it's goods "on the shelf" tomorrow, and like it or not, it was drugs that spoiled us, that allowed that to happen. Tired truck driver crashes have been on the rise for years, and lobbyists scream, "we need more trucks, so drivers don't have to drive as long". Baloney, we can't fill the trucks we have, and the drivers we do have can't stay awake. Talk to any old-timer, and while it was swept under the rug, "a little help" was the norm, it was part of the job. Years ago, I was having trouble staying awake, and I admit, I experimented with "a little help", because I had no choice, it was my job, and I HAD to stay awake, and like it or not, IT WORKED. I got out of driving because I knew it wasn't accepted, and just can't stay awake that long anymore, and I'm not alone. It seems everyone dances around this, and we never talk about it, and clearly drugs aren't the answer,( although, I heard, they DO give them to fighter pilots to stay awake on their way to killing people) but my point about all this, is our country is spoiled with, "why isn't my lettuce on the shelf", and my response would be, "because in the past, some driver had " a little help" to get it there. Don't lambaste me on this. If you can't accept what I said, you are living with your head in the sand, it's just how it was years ago.[/QUOTE]
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