Well...Its not over Yet,unless you want it to be?.There is companies that pay out the arse for insurance,so they can employ people with less than top notch driving records.Now...the work usually involves more than drop &hook,but,they are desperate for drivers/workers.Example food service/ trash/ recycle companies.Basically ,they cant find anybody to drive and Work.Dump trucks,a (lot of ex felons,coke heads).Not knocking anyone,Just Saying,you may have to do a harder ,less desirable job,till you get 3 or 4 years behind this,but,it doesnt Have To Be The End.JMO
company fired me for safety performance now can't get hired
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by antoinefinch, Mar 28, 2017.
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What you did is minor; there's plenty of companies that will hire you. First I'd try the temp services that hire truck drivers. They have access to the smaller outfits around your area.
Problem is, you probably won't find a cushy job like you had, but in a few months you will.
Try these and if they have online application, do that before any phone calls. Then call and say, "I'm checking on my job application."
Southern Ag Carriers - 3 Georgia terminals. I understand they once required 3 yrs. experience but have now lowered that to 1 yr. Not sure, but worth a call.
Robert Heath Trucking -No more than 2 tickets in last 3 years. No more than 2 minor accidents in last 3 years.
One Way Staffing - temp service.
Drive United - temp service.
Rodgers Cartage - .50/mile loaded and .44/mile unloaded. Never pulled liquid tanks? No problem! We offer initial training in the loading and unloading of our tanks.
Davis Express Inc. - Southeast regional. All trucks are equipped with TriPac APU’s, Qualcomm, E-log, and 1800 Watt power inverters.
1 years verifiable experience in the last 7 years
No more than 2 moving violations in the past 3 years
No Serious Moving Violations in the last 3 years & no more than 1 in the last 5 yearsLast edited: Mar 28, 2017
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Here's some more:
RWH Trucking - Oakwood,GA
Abilene Motor Express - 72 mph on cruise.
Magnum Ltd. - super good reputation
Wiley Sanders Truck Lines - Troy,AL
Tyson Foods
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China's advise was very spot on... what you did was very minor and certainly does not end your career...
your best bet is to put your energy to getting back to work, and Chinas advise about going through a staffing agency is really a good one... lot of drivers don't realize that going through a staffing agency can be the way to get your foot in the door to small/medium carriers, may of whom wouldn't hire them otherwise.. reason being, is it cost to hire a driver, and staffing agency take care of that.. so the company gets a driver without all the upfront costs, if the driver doesn't work out they are not out anything, and the staffing agency that has already invested in you is gonna want to get you on somewhere else...
that is only one option, seems like China gave you a pretty good list of opportunities for you..
I use to be a truck driver, but now I am a recruiter... (not here to recruit and will not from here, so no PMs) I also lead workshops and seminars teaching people how to get hired.. how to answer questions... so, I want to share some advise on how to better explain your accident and increase your chances...
A lot of drivers want to minimize their accident.. feel that if they make sure the interviewer or recruiter realizes it was just a minor ding... but, that's not good... t actually has the opposite effect.. because if a minor ding matter a great deal to the person making the payments for a vehicle.. if you lent your friend your car and they came back and told you they it a shopping cart and put a little minor scratch on your car.. the little scratch is a bigger deal toy you.. so don't minimize.. it is what it is..
here is how to explain your accident...
it was a big lesson learned the hard way
It was a busy lot with lots of activity, and although I did get out and look I obviously wasn't careful enough and I hit a trailer.
It certainly taught me to be more careful and look twice when I get out and look.
That that is a short concise statement that is sandwiched
Most drivers put way to much information about their accidents.. with every extra word it becomes a bigger deal..
The sandwich thing... research has shown, that when 3 Statements are made.. the first and last make the most impact.... and what is most often remembered when tested later..
So wording your accident in a conscience 3 statement what you are conveying is
You learned from it
You hit a trailer
Your a more careful driver now
what you told them was you learn from you mistakes and are better for it...
But seriously to all driver... less is more... I literally have had Driver use 4 paragraphs to explain how they hit a trailer.. including way too much detail...
Reread your post.. what do you convey... that you are a driver who will get in a rush... don't include that info... you do not want to convey that you are a driver that will rush things to get another load... your are essentially saying you are willing to be careless if it puts a few more dollars in your pocket.. what you say conveys a message... certain things are just best left out...
Good luck to you... and you will be able to find a job driving a truck.. and like China said... you don't need to land your dream job.. just get in the seat again and work your way up...marnium, Ryan423, homeskillet and 3 others Thank this. -
Don't get me wrong; it's good, useful advice - but recruiters don't just do this to carriers... they do it to drivers, too. I'm not sure that it's a skill that they can turn on and off. Without getting too personal, I don't imagine that it goes over well with spouses or children, either... the problem with these tactics is that, even if they work, in the moment, the target eventually realizes that he or she has been snowed, and becomes resentful about it.
It may work on the carrier, since the person pulling the trigger on the hiring decisions, there, probably won't have a lot of interaction with the driver, after that, to reflect on what just happened - but drivers do remember what recruiters told them, and how much of it turned out to be deceptive. Sure, there's not necessarily any outright lie, in the sandwich technique - but the deceptive tactic involved is called 'diversion', and a deception is no less dishonest for not being an outright lie. The resentment that follows is not diminished.
I suspect that recruiters aren't even conscious of it, when they are doing this sort of thing, most of the time. It requires that kind of mindset, in order to believe that doing so is not immoral - because I'm pretty sure that if you thought that it was, you couldn't keep doing it, and maintain any kind of self-esteem.
I don't want to change your mind about that, because you probably need to stay the way you are, to be effective at what you do. But in the interests of informing you about why drivers feel the way that we do, about recruiters (the topic of that other thread), I would like for you to be able to see how it looks, from this other point of view. It looks dishonest, and that's a part of the reason so many drivers mistrust recruiters.marnium and EatYourVeggies Thank this. -
Once a recruiter sends a driver to a company.. if the company hires them it is up to the company as to where to place that diver..
As for double talk... I did not tell him to lie about his accident... I told him a better way to say what happened in a concise manner..
Here is something funny and Ironic.. there are numerous of Post on various threads where a truck driver tells another driver to lie.. either by omission
" don,t tell the company it happened..." " just tell them you came out of the truck stop after your shower and it was like that"... and so forth..
Yet you never say any rebuttal calling their integrity into count..
I have already explained to you that I am a recruiting and staffing agent for a firm that handles more than truck drivers.. I only hire drivers for the select group of companies that are clients of ours.. and because I was a truck driver for just over five years I am the only agent in our firm that handles drivers..
Because of that, my recruiting practices are different than a dedicated Driver Recruiter... however, somethings are the same.. in that a recruiter only finds applicants that meet certain requirements that a company is looking for..
Whether the driver is hired is up to the company.. and once hired what account the driver is placed on is up to the company..
I do not feel bad in teaching people a better way to verbalize their attributes or negatives to increase their chances of getting hired..
Now, your are not going to like what I am about to say.. but... you need to grow up and quit playing victim.. you are not the victim of some recruiter... you are the result of choices and actions you have made..
Most of the companies that drivers go through a recruiter for have their information on their website, truck stop ads, and all over.. so, even if a recruiter lied and said they pay new drivers .54 cpm, brand new truck every year, and they will pay off your mortgage so you don't have to worry about that while you are on the road.. the choice to just believe that and not do any checking is not on the recruiter it is on the driver..
So people.. realize that the recruiter does not have any bearing or control on what the company does with you after they hire you.. they will place you on whichever account they need you on.. the recruiter is only answering your questions about whatever company and account you are calling about.. but that does not mean that is where the company will put you.. and they use what the company has given them.. regarding pay and such..
Keep in mind.. companies do usually use their better paying accounts with better hometime and such to attract driver to apply... and that is the information the recruiter has.. but again the company can put you on a different account with different pay when you are hired..
Recruiters do not have all the power that some assign them..Last edited: Apr 2, 2017
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In all this I am confused... What kinda job is he looking for? Drop-Hook, regional somehow I have got list in the debate about recruiters
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Sean W.. you are right this is not a thread to debate the integrity or lack of of recruiters..
Do like to contribute, as having been a truck driver for years and now seeing it all from a different side.. the recruiting side... I like to share what I have learned..
Especially if it helps some to realize the processes that are about to shape their lives as they enter this industry..
However, I am not the one to ask about what company to go or such as china does a superb, open and honest job at that.. as well as others.. -
Ok was not sure new here might of knew someone that moves containers in that area... kinda hard to figure these threads out... new on board not trucks
have owned my own trucks for 12 years
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Yeah.. the threads can derail pretty quick.. but for the most we all try to pass on useful information..
Also, have good hearted debates.. and Fatmando and I have posted back and forth and he usually bring up points for me to consider...
The truth that he does point out is that recruiters are not a trusted group in the trucking industry... because some do deliberately mislead an applicant..
Also, this site does have to guard and watch out for recruiters who may use this site to recruit.. I am just her to post...
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