Container trucking and HOS

Anywhere. Most of time overseas.

 

Not unless they load an empty container at a seaport.

 

95% of the BOL's I see for inbound freight show a Point of Origin as wherever the forwarder or broker is located, very very rarely does it list anywhere overseas.

 

In fact, the very first load I am picking up tomorrow is 45,000 lbs of beans, going from Ogallala, Nebraska to Honshu, Japan. The BOL's will never list the final customer as being in Japan, they list destination as Vancouver, Washington. The port the container is departing from. The load of Sunflower I picked up on Friday is bound for Istanbul, it lists Newark, NJ. as final destination.

 

Yes but the freight still originated from somewhere else outside "whatever" state. Why would it matter if it went to a DC or not?

 

Something to think about. If somebody steals something on the pier.. The FBI will investigate .. All piers, custom free zones at some warehouses are covered under federal law. I used to haul containers in California. We just had a Ca. PUC number . So inside the pier is either MC authority or if the state has state authority, either will work, and when I worked, I was covered under California's log book rules and not federal. Because intra state you can drive 12 hours, and then there are a few exemptions with more hours like agricultural is something like 14 hours of driving per shift.now the shipper will only put the destination at the pier and not where it's going to end up at as that info is not important to the trucking company. But most of the time you kind of know where it's going to end up..

 

The shipper on the original BOL would be the vendor. The consignee is the DC , not the store where the product ends up. The entire load is unloaded and put in a warehouse. That shipment is done. When the product is loaded on a new load with other products to go to a store within the state that is a new shipment.
An LTL shipment is different. While the load may be unloaded at a terminal and loaded on a trailer to be delivered within that state the shipment from the shipper to the consignee hasn't been completed. The load still has an invoice from another state.

 

Youre looking at the port of discharge. Look at the customer. And if your refering to the outgate ticket s the BOL it wont say..

 

10-4 Rick I concede. You are correct. I have been discussing this with my brother (also a driver) and there is not really a lot of info out there that gets down to detail. I did find the following at the Oregon DOT website:

"Whether transportation is interstate or intrastate
is determined by the essential character of the
commerce, manifested by the shipper's fixed and
persisting transportation intent at the time of shipment.

The transportation of goods by rail into Oregon and to
the Salem Warehouse is clearly interstate commerce.
The subsequent movement of goods by truck from the
warehouse to Ashland may be intrastate commerce or a
continuation of interstate commerce, depending on the
shipper’s intent at the time of shipment."

 

Imports are a continuation of international commerce.
Every delivery order I see shows the port where the can began it's voyage to the USA.

Off loading the contents for storage does not change the nature of the shipment.

Tankers manged to win this one in court against the PA PUC. We were loading at tank farms in Philadelphia chemicals that were produced in Texas and transported to PA on a parcel tanker and off loaded into huge storage tanks. The state did not question transporting these chemicals to destinations outside PA but did try and stop deliveries intrastate PA without a PA PUC number and they lost in court. The ruling was that the deliveries from those bulk tanks were a continuation of interstate trasnportation and were not regualted by the state PUC.

I do not see where imported products would turn to intrastate freight simply because it was stripped and placed in a warehouse. I walk our warehouse and I see the same 11 letters over and over...MADE IN CHINA...moving one box across the street from our warehouse is a continuation of an interstate [and international] shipemnt.