converting 9 speed in to 13 speed?

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  1. droy

    droy Heavy Load Member

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    Couple of times, I could have used an extra gear or two on the low side. Called a friend who has a little more knowledge than I about this, he wasn't to keen on this type of conversion, and not able to talk long, but he said something about an 18 having bearings and a 13 having bushings may be the reason that the conversion wouldn't hold up like a factory 18.
     
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  3. coadman

    coadman Light Load Member

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    Hey, guys, bought this truck this weekend. It is a 1988 Pete 377, with Cummins Big Cam 4(400HP), with a 9 speed tranny, 4.11 rear end. With this in mind, I imagine top speed would be around 70-72 MPH? I don't know what RPM's would be at that speed? I don't know if I would ever need it, but it would be nice to know I could go 75 MPH on interstate if I ever wanted, without rapping the motor too high. With all this in mind, would a 13 speed conversion, be of any use? Mainly will just be hauling on flat ground, grain and livestock.
    thanks,
    Jim
     
  4. Rock hauler

    Rock hauler Light Load Member

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    Look at the tag on the right side of the tranny, see if it's RT or RTO. If it's RTO you don't need any thing else. if it's RT it will be easy to convert and will give you .87 overdrive if you want 13 sp. RT is 1 to1 in 9th, RTO is .73 in 9th, witch is the same as 99% of new trannys
     
  5. coadman

    coadman Light Load Member

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    I won't have possession of the truck until next weekend, so I will have to look then, unless I can have him look for me.
    thanks,
    Jim
     
  6. coadman

    coadman Light Load Member

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    Received confirmation this morning, it is an RT.
     
  7. Rock hauler

    Rock hauler Light Load Member

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    surly it's a RT14609, you can put 13 back half on it, it will give you .87 overdrive witch is still slow. probably for a few more dollars you could find a 10 sp. a 15 over will .79 over but still the easy way to speed it up would be later 10sp they have .73 overdrive.
     
  8. 07-379Pete

    07-379Pete Crusty Commando-Pete

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    Why not turn 8th and 9th around, add the back box and make it a double over 13 speed?
     
  9. Rock hauler

    Rock hauler Light Load Member

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    Loose you low hole and very few trucks can pull out .73 overdrive much less .60
     
  10. coadman

    coadman Light Load Member

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    Some of what you guys are talking about, is very "confusing"!(lol) I would just like to go 75 mph, if I wanted to without it rapping up to high. :)
     
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  11. 07-379Pete

    07-379Pete Crusty Commando-Pete

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    Dont think you will loose the low hole by turning 8th and 9th around. But the truck he is buying has 4.11 rears. If it had 3.36's I would agree a .60 overdrive would be to much.
    Back in 1990 I had a truck with 3.70 rears and a 13 doubleover and it was like having the best of both worlds...pulled grate and had a nice top end speed without running the RPM's way up.
     
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