Cost of getting in front

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Assured, Jun 12, 2024.

  1. Assured

    Assured Light Load Member

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    When someone runs completely out of following distance in lane 1, then forces his way into lane 2, then mashes the throttle to get out in front, then gets back over in lane 1 and brakes all that speed back down (to avoid ramming whatever it was that was holding up the "slow" driver), how much is the aggressive driver (or his employer) spending for the privilege?

    Cost (in fuel, possibly maintenance also if that can be easily quantified) to hammer-down to go from 45-70 in a variety of situations - main variables would be weight, grade, equipment spec. Possibly would be interesting to see every realistic situation laid out in spreadsheet form.

    For comparison, the costs (in each situation) to relax and maintain speed would also be helpful.

    I've been curious about this for a while and would like to know just how badly industry-standard drivers are nickel-and-diming themselves.
     
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  3. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    No idea, I'm the first guy
     
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  4. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

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    As long as you’re running 5-10 over I’ll be the one running behind you..second mouse gets the cheese :)

    Part of the reason I haven’t gotten a speeding ticket in the last 40 years…never be the fastest driver on the road.
     
  5. 062

    062 Road Train Member

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    Maybe you and @expedite_it could come up with something.
     
  6. 86scotty

    86scotty Road Train Member

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    If you actually took the time to think up and form a post about the weird driving habits of other truckers you might not make it at this.

    There is no logic, there is just survival. Having an ungoverned truck helps.
     
  7. cuzzin it

    cuzzin it Road Train Member

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    Your asking a question that is much deeper thought than those who do that use when doing that.
    Same short sight many use when considering Politics, Religion and rollergrill morsels
     
  8. FloridaRetired

    FloridaRetired Light Load Member

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    Insignificant. You might also wonder how much more it costs to operate a truck by drivers who weigh more than 300 lbs vs the skinny ones. The significance is on the other side of the equation, how much the truck is running for. These sorts of questions Kevin Rutherford was good at. Maybe, if he's got a web site, you'll find some answer there.
     
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  9. Assured

    Assured Light Load Member

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    My preliminary testing suggests it is a significant cost: My fleet-spec tractor reported an "instant" 3.3 mpg while accelerating from 55-65, with a light load over about 0.4 miles (usually I see it in the 9-10.5 mpg range when cruising at low speed). With a bit of hand-waving, I arrived at a guesstimate at a baseline somewhere around an eigth of a gallon of excess fuel consumption for 45-65 (versus cruising at 45). I don't trust the "instant" fuel consumption reporting, but only because I don't know precisely what that means (or if it can meaningfully be extrapolated).

    I can see this is being insignificant, but only if the driver doing it is able to consistently stay off the brakes.

    I might sometime later sending an email to the podcast that popped up on an Internet search for "Kevin Rutherford". It doesn't appear to be a directly searchable website, so I'll have to listen in on a few shows first to make sure it's a suitable issue to raise.
     
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  10. 4wayflashers

    4wayflashers Heavy Load Member

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    Ever stand next to an Interstate and watch the packs of cars and trucks go by? There is usually a mile or so with only a couple cars in between these packs. My motto is be in between the packs whenever you can.
     
  11. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Never understood why anyone would want to increase their exposure by hanging in a pack. But you see trucks doing it just like the cars.
     
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