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COVENANT -- From a wife's perspective
Discussion in 'Discuss Your Favorite Trucking Company Here' started by Redcoat wife, Aug 31, 2008.
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Hello everybody,
Just an update to let you all know that Redcoat is trying his hand at doing my job. We have gone down and rented a car and he has his own roll of film that he is working. Yesterday was his first day at selling pictures and although he didn't get any sales, he did get a couple call backs so eventually the sales will come. He has to sell at least four this week to pay for his rental car and after that he will be making money. He doesn't care for door-to-door selling but right now he's between the devil and the deep blue sea so he doesn't have much of a choice.
In a PM, Rocks made the point (as did Lurch earlier in this thread) that you have to really WANT to be a truck driver in order to make it in this career and that if the desire is there, one will find a way to achieve the goal.
That was a huge problem in Redcoat's case because the desire wasn't really there. As I told Rocks, it was essentially my idea as a job that he could do that would allow him to stay with the same company while I traveled in my job and we could still see one another occasionally while we got caught up with our finances. The other major factor was health benefits because at our age, you pretty much have to have SOMEthing in place to help pay for medical costs.
Since I am an independent contractor with my work, I have no benefits. The only thing I have VA benefits from my Gulf War veteran status but I'm pretty low in the pecking order if I go to a VA hospital for anything.
Anyway, I thought truck driving would be good rather than wasting days trying to find work someplace in the next town and then having to quit when it's time for me to move on. Doesn't make for very good resume material to job hop constantly like that.
I think if Redcoat would have gotten a good trainer from the start that things would have worked out. But when he was thrust into the situation he was right from the git go, it totally just freaked him out.
He had no initial desire to drive a truck. He looked at it as just a way to make some money. He likes the machines themselves and he studies them but as far as the lifestyle itself, he believes that for the most part, truckers are looked down on by their companies, the shippers, the general pubic, the cops, and the DOT guys. He said it seems as if everybody wants what the truckers can deliver but nobody actually gives a crap about them and that some agencies even have more of an adversarial relationship with them than anything else. He said it gets tiring to always be on the defensive and worrying and hoping nothing bad will happen to shut down your career and put you out of work in an instant. That aspect of this career he just isn't ready to deal with.
So at this point, I'd lay odds that he probably won't be coming back. I could be wrong but I kind of doubt it. We'll see how it goes in the next two weeks.....AfterShock Thanks this. -
Has he thought about expiditing? Class B or driving a cargo van Something like that Hauling thing. I found a web site called UShip and that is what people do they bid on the price to haul other people's things It is an idea
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That is unfortunate, really feel badly for you both.
One thing I will agree with, is that driving is more than a "job", although it is a job sometimes. I remember the feeling when i first got behind the wheel, waayyyy back in '91, it was magical to me. I would stare at the big trucks and get all hot and bothered.
So that may be more info than you want, lol, but the point is that even though it is a decent job, if the desire is not there, like anything, it will be much tougher to succeed.
My suggestion though would be to have Redcoat give it one more shot, mostly so that in the future when the time will come that he may wish he has stuck with it, he will know for certain that he gave it every chance to work....
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Hmmmmmmmm
Ain't that what Big truck truckin' companies say about miles?
Substitute "miles to run" for sales to make.
Seems like it might be the same ol' wine in a brand new bottle.
Take a good look at THAT fit.
You're a keeper.
ReDCoaT!
Lissin up!
"Right now" is what it is.
But tomorrow, Right Now will be history.
I'm not the strongest swimmer, but if given the choice of the devil and the deep blue pond, ..........
By Golly!
That's a no brainer.
And I'm thinkin' deep blue is much cooler than hail's half acre..
I don't like hot places.
Did I ever tell you about the summer week I spent in Florida,
one day?
Several times?
But I'm not convinced that one has to really WANT to be a truck driver.
There are, I think, degrees of good, professional, truck and Big truck truck drivers.
Let's say the Big truck adorned with more chicken lights than could be counted in less than an hour, .... or 90 miles --- whichever comes first --- and has collected around a million mile markers runnin' across Wyoming, Kansas, and other plains states, at one end of the scale.
Lives and breathes Big trucks 'cause he/she loves Big trucks.
For them, the ideal re-set would be to spend the time at the International Truck Show.
BTW --- I don't call that the "top" OR the "bottom".
Just opposite ends of the scale.
On the other end, a plane-jane company Big truck who can just walk away from the truck, parked in the company's parking lot, at the end of their shift, often daily --- and not look back. Not even once.
Until they return to duty.
Doesn't really care WhaT the Big truck is, as long as it's up and runnin'. His/Her ideal re-set would be sitting at home, or someplace OTHER than in a Big truck.
Driven no where near a million miles, all around Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, and The Bronx, while avoiding a drop in Staten Island, I hear drops being dropped there, can pretty well plan on not gettin' outta there any time soon.
Hmmmmmmmmm
Could that be considered "detention pay"?
I think, to KNOW he doesn't have a "desire' ---- FIRST he'd have to experience the whole enchalada.
Desire gets better once y'all get past the hot sauce.
I hope Redcoat isn't convinced either.
And truckin' sounds like the job that might fit in.
But if Redcoat quits now, y'all will never know.
Ya know?
Just a thought, but have y'all considered puttin' down roots somewhere?
Havin' a mate in a stationary home helps a driver to get a bearing when OTR.
For SOME, they're doin' what they do FOR a home, OFF the road. And their reason for runnin' ---- back (home), from time to time.
Hmmmmmmmmm
Redcoat knows something now that he didn't know goin' into Big truck truckin' training.
If nothing else, he knows what truckin' CAN be --- under the wrong conditions.
It would be a shame if he didn't, at least, get a taste of right conditions, before deciding to spit it out, or not.
Home time.
A new trainer.
Another OPPORTUNITY.
He learned all THAT in a few, short, weeks?! With a BAD trainer?
Go figure.
Just imagine how much MORE he could learn with a GOOD trainer.
Ultimately, only y'all know what's best for both.
But, I'm readin' more here than just freakin' out over a career change/bad trainer.
Take y'all's time on this decision.
I get the feelin' it's gonna' to be important for y'all to get this one right.
ALL of "it".
I hope you're readin' that Redcoat.
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I have been reading all 14 pages of Redcoats Adventures
with Covenant, All companies have trainers that suck! If you read a few Central Ref, Werner, Swift and Stevens posts you will read some real HORROR stories, I have only named a few of the bigger Companies that immediately jumped into my mind and I have seen a few Werner drivers, who are trainers try get into a dock after Cussing out there student because they were having a bad time, but that's another story.
I hate to see drivers leave straight after they finish training or before they finish training because they have got some dirty, mile pushing slob pushing them for more miles.
If a new driver doesn't get a lil nervous going through road work where you have the concrete thingy's almost touching your truck then IMO they have to much confidence and they will have an accident sooner rather then later. Sheesh I even hate going through there as a passenger.
Redcoat you should really try it for a little bit longer its easier, when you have your own truck and no slob pushing you to get on down the road.
I remember JJ's first trip down Cabbage, geared right down and all the super truckers flying past laughing at the Newbie. I think they all forget they were Newbies at one stage, I would rather be on time then DEAD on time.Last edited: Sep 18, 2008
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I agree with Jess-juju..There is nothing like being alone, in your truck under a load. I drove for 12 years, and everytime I had to train someone I hated it, even if the guy was a good guy. Hated being with someone else.
Once Redcoat gets through the training period, gets comfortable behind the wheel, and gets alone, he will probably love it....Nothing like rolling across I80 in PA or up the NY thruway to Platsburg, under a load, alone, on a beautiful Fall day....
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good company.
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I feel that Redcoat should stay with trucking and get a new trainer.
After reading his personality traits he might not be a good fit for door to door type traveling sales. It takes a go getter like Redcoat's wife and not a laid back personality like Redcoat has. As his wife stated "what doesn't get done today can be done tomorrow" is his theory and it doesn't work in sales like he would be doing selling pictures.
I have been in sales for 30 years and have trained many a salesperson and to succeed you have to have drive and be focused and ready to close the sale today.
Redcoat will probably like trucking once he goes solo and might have a better perspective if he goes out again with a new trainer.AfterShock Thanks this. -
Trucking can be a stressful job, and in the beginning is at it's worst. Once Redcoat can get solo, the better. What can it hurt? Already having to pay for the school, so least try get your money worth out of it.. Waist not want not, right?
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