Hey Mrs. R
Just curious, when RC backs, is the trainer standing outside the truck, with the drivers' side window down and talking him through every second of the process? If he's just sitting in the pass. seat telling RC what to do that is a waste of their time. The trainer should be outside, walking right along side the drivers side window and explaining every second which way to turn the wheel. Tell him to put one hand on the bottom of the wheel and whichever way he wants the trailer to go, just move his hand that way. Some guys teach to put your hands on the top of the wheel and whatever way you want the trailer to go you move your hands the opposite way, it's the same thing.
Anyways, is the trainer outside his door talking him through it or is he sitting in the passenger seat and letting him get frustrated? Tell him to hang in there and anytime he is in a terminal or a drop lot......practice, practice practice.....soon it will be second nature.
BOL to him, we're all pulling for him.
COVENANT -- From a wife's perspective
Discussion in 'Discuss Your Favorite Trucking Company Here' started by Redcoat wife, Aug 31, 2008.
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Wow! I've read all your posts and there is some really great advice in them, especially the thing about the tandems. I'm going to copy and condense them all and email them to Redcoat. But I believe you all are right. This is something that Redcoat is just going to have to work out but still I think there is a lot of good info in your responses. Once he reads them, he'll at least have this stuff in his head to try as he keeps practicing. Too bad they don't have simulators like we did in the Air Force.
I found out that the yard where they were staying in Olive Branch was one owned by Star not too far off Exit 1 on Hwy 78. (Doesn't Covenant own Star??) They sat there a couple days waiting on a load and left last night for Atlanta and are now sitting again waiting for a load but I think they just got one over the qualcomm and Redcoat is waiting for his trainer to get back to the truck so they can get moving. Not only does his trainer have no amenities in his truck but the man apparently doesn't believe in cell phones either.
I managed to catch them in Olive Branch before they had to leave and the three of us went out for dinner. Redcoat's trainer told me that RC is actually doing OK with his backing and gets better and better the more he practices. He says RC is about where his other students usually are at this point in their training. So it's kind of weird to hear RC moaning about his trainer's lack of instruction and then hear his trainer saying that RC is doing pretty good for the length of time he's been driving. Hmmmmm.....
I do know that RC said his old trainer sat on his butt and watched while RC was practicing backing. He said at least this trainer stands to watch but to answer MT1's question RC's trainer is NOT in the truck nor is he on the step or walking near the door. According to RC he stands out in front of the tractor and watches and then walks up to critique him after a couple failed tries. So actually SOME kind of training is taking place -- just not the kind Redcoat is looking for. I think RC is looking for some kind of magic solution to the backing problem that will instantly make him good at it and it just boils down to patience, practice and working at it until the thing just happens.
Thanks for all the well wishes for my aunt. Her funeral is Friday and Saturday morning I'll be leaving for Birmingham to try to get some work in for the weekend. The territory where I'll be starting is in the "V" formed by I-65 and I-459 so I'll be running up and down that stretch of I-459 for the next several weeks. Then Tuesday I have to go to Memphis (as well as Redcoat) for his green card interview and then go with my mom on Wednesday for an important doctor's appointment. So as you can see, I'll be busy from now to next week so y'all don't think I've abandoned my thread. I'll check in and update when I can but in case you don't see me for a few days, that'll be why. -
Tell RC that there are guys out here who been driving years and years that still have problems backing. I am not the best, yet I have gotten good feedback from customers also. Once down in Miami I backed in to the spot, and walked in the store where I was loading at. Guy open the door and saw where I was at, and came running and shook my hand, saying wow A real Truck Driver, one that can back into tight spots. But I had to pll up many of times to get it in, but I did not give up.
So yes Practice and Practice.
Guess if I could see, I could do better. Failed my Eye test todayBaack Thanks this. -
Redcoat would not want to go were my first solo back was.
I'll try and paint a pretty picture for you though.
It was at a dairy warehouse from the docks to the grass was about 110-120 feet.
The problem was there is a parking lot in this same area that took up 15-20 ft of that space.
You can sight side back or blind side back in it just depended on which one you wanted to do or felt lucky enoght to do.
It would of not been as bad but there were not only trailers and vehicles I had to miss but on a couple of the trailers there was a truck attached to it.
I parked on the street and checked in they told me put it into any open door that I thought I could hit then come and tell them the door number.
Which door do you think I went for? I went for the one were I knew if I would hit the truck or trailer that it would not be as bad as hitting someone else. .
Needless to say I took the one were it was another one of the company's truck that I was working for.
But other guy had a 379 pete and I had my freighliner he was standing there just watching me to see if I hit him or anything else.
I estimate that I had only about 40 feet to manuver in it was tight but I managed to get it in with only 3-6 pull ups.
I got out of my truck and talked with the other company driver and I asked him how did you like my first solo backing job.
His jaw dropped almost to the ground and said you must be joking this can not be your first solo back you did it too good.
I said well if you do not belive me call down to the terminal ask for XXXXX and ask him obout truck XXXX see if I had just solo'd out.
I had to do plenty of G.O.A.L. just to make sure I was not too close to the cars and other trailers.
I imagine that I made one or two drivers mad that night as they could not go anywere untill I got in the spot but atleast I did not hit anything.
It was alot easyier to leave as the other driver was loaded and gone by the time they got me loaded.
This place was worse than the walmart dc's that I have had to drop a trailer in. As some of you guy's/ gal's know thw walmart dc' they have all kinds of trailers in front of the docks and accross from the dock they want you in. Or wose than the safeway warehouse in denver co arround back wow what a nightmare that place was no lights and it was pitch black when I had to do that one.
I actually seen a yard jocky at the walmart dc in cheyenne wy take out part of a reefer unit with the side of hie little hostler truck. -
well to prove a point I was taking my driver's test today for USA Truck. In the backing I goofed up and should have been failed, but he passed me anyway. I hit a barrel. OOoooopppsssssss I pulled up and did it right the second time.. When the tester got back in and said OK, head back to the yard. I said in a question kind of a way, Guess I failed? He said no you passed.
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Hi everybody. It's been several days since I've posted and a busy week for me. I buried my aunt last Thursday -- very sad but my mom is taking it fairly well -- and then made the trip from Birmingham to Memphis for Redcoat's green card interview on Tuesday. That was an exercise in frustration. I've decided that the dudes in Homeland Security are very much like cops in that they have absolutely NO sense of humor and there must be a rule that doesn't allow them to make any small talk.
Anyway, again, I have to give Covenant their props for getting Redcoat to Memphis the day before so he wouldn't miss that appointment. They arrived at the Star yard in Olive Branch on Monday and I got up early on Tuesday for the 250 mile trip and picked RC up at the yard on the way.
Wednesday they left out for Atlanta and then from there to upstate New York. That's where they are now waiting for another load hopefully to Florida so RC's trainer can pick up his absentee ballot to vote. I say hopefully for the trainer, not for RC because RC is afraid that once they get in Florida they'll sit for days waiting for a load out.
RC's attitude has evolved from panic mode to sarcastic mode. He has gotten very cynical over these past few weeks in that he's just sick of the way the company treats their students and, of course, the low pay. So the sarcasm has taken over and although it's mostly funny, there is a sadness about it and a sense of resignation.
He's still working on the backing thing but he said that the information in Stranger's post was really helpful as well as some of the tips in the other posts. I'm sure he'll get it eventually.
One thing that has him a little confused is the training schedule. When he went to orientation he could have sworn that they said training would be 45 days. But his trainer is telling him that he needs 35 4-hour shifts. If anybody knows which it really is, I'd like to know.
Other from that, that's all my news so far. They are sitting and waiting somewhere around Buffalo, NY and hopefully they'll get something tomorrow to get some more miles in. -
I don't know anything about Covenant policies, but I do know this... when my hubby went out with England, his attitude got really sarcastic and sucky too. It seems to come at a certain point in training.. and then they either get over that attitude, or they get out trucking. It's just one of those things.
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GuysLady which way did your hubby go? Did he stick with it or get out.
Anyway, Redcoat's disgust is mostly from his feeling like he doesn't matter to Covenant because he can be easily replaced. That plus all the usual aggravation that everybody in this career field seems to endure.....with the exception of those lucky enough to work for a company that actually takes their employees' moral into consideration.
I thought Redcoat was up near Buffalo but he was actually down at the bottom of the state near Binghamton. They left this afternoon for Harrisburg and are scheduled to pick up a load in the morning bound for Dallas. However, they are not going all the way to Dallas with it as they are making a trailer swap in Nashville. And then they wait for another load. Not sure what the logic of making a swap is.
Redcoat has decided that he can tolerate driving during the day well enough but he really detests driving at night because he can't see as far as he'd like to in order to stay within his comfort zone. He says it's very tiring driving at night because he's constantly on alert for hazards that he can't see.
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Oh sure, Covenant can replace RC with some flunky that might accept Covenant's shabby treatment of their drivers by treating them like ####roaches with their "there's PLENTY more where you came from" attitude.
But the TRUTH is, Covenant CAN'T replace the QUALITY employee that Redcoat IS.
Once RC gets more experience and builds up his confidence, he'll be a sought after driver, not the usual job-hopper that Covenant seems to have become accustomed to.
HaiL!
I bet those at Covenant who work in the support roles don't recognize 90% of their drivers because they know MOST of their newBees won't be there more than a year. So why treat them well? Loyal they're not. They just tolerate Covenant for as long as it takes to repay their training, then jump ship.
That's a result of RESEARCHING --- looking for the better companies, rather that hopping from one bad starter company to another, over and over again, and expecting different results.
Tack sharp, they're not, and might even be a few sandwiches shy of a picnic.
Did he mention that Binghampton is an armpit?
He needs to come to the realization that how he views things today will, most likely, NOT be how he views things tomorrow, and the days after that.
Big truck driving DOES change as one becomes more familiar with the various ways of gittin' 'er done. More options as skills increase can be expected.
I know it doesn't seem that way in the beginning, but trust ol' AfterShock on this one.
I know that feeling, too.
But with more experience, he'll develop a sixth-sense.
When he reaches that point, he'll be amazed at how he'll be able to see situations as they're being created. Situations MOST automobile drivers DON'T even notice. He'll amaze himself, and others, when he catches himself saying "I KNEW that was gonna happen" -- and will have prepared himself to AVOID it.
Just don't be too surprised if the average 4-wheeler driver won't understand that ability, and may even doubt he can see and predict things before they happen.
He'll be able to recognize potential danger zones, and drive defensively, thereby avoiding mishaps.
Then, if he takes a defensive driving class, he'll hear the instructors explaining what he's already experiencing and able to recognize. After that, he'll be able to put a name to the things he notices, but didn't know what to call them prior to that.
And THAT right thar is a REAL confidence builder.
YeS it is!
And, if Redcoat thinks I'm full of bull pucky, tell him to stick it out long enough to realize I know what I'm talkin' 'bout.
And he can buy me a beer as he relates his stories.
And if he buys me another beer, I'll share a few of my OWN stories.
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Hey AfterShock, how ya been?
Thanks for the comments. I've noticed that Redcoat's confidence is starting to come around. And I'm sure the night time thing will also work it's way out eventually just like you say. Better get a six-pack of Bud Ice ready for Redcoat when he makes it out to your way. Also Redcoat's English version of "I knew that was going to happen" is "I was just going to think that."
RC called me a little while ago and they are about an hour or two out of Nashville. He said after they turn the trailer over to the other driver, they will have a local run tomorrow. He said it pays different than OTR but he's not sure how they figure it out. The local is only 15 miles away. After that I'm guessing Covenant will probably see if they can get them something heading down to Florida so his trainer can pick up his voting ballot.
I'm with ya on finding a new company. Redcoat still wants to go with TMC as he talks to his friend every week and the dude loves it there. But he has to stick it out with Covenant until he can get enough time in to make the jump to TMC.
Other from that, I don't have any more news. Redcoat seems to be settling in to his training with the attitude of just getting it over with. It's too bad he can't go back with his old trainer because now that he's getting used to driving, his old trainer was getting the massive trips from Texas to California and back all the time so he was definitely getting the miles. With his new trainer, they seem to be doing more sitting between loads but that might just be my perception.
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