Wife,
After reading all of the posts again, I think it may be in y'alls best interest if you call and ask for a different trainer. It may be that he needs to get off of THAT truck, not off of THE truck. Getting to a terminal and waiting for a new trainer for an hour, or a day or two, may help him to relax and regather his wits.
I personally think that being under emotional duress from a mismatched trainer is a form of abuse. There may be a history with this trainer that others have had to endure too. All drivers are not meant to be trainers. I am currently teaching my 15 year old daughter to drive, and quite frankly, I am not cut out for it. I don't like being out of control of the vehicle with someone with little experience. My husband does fine being her co driver. If he sits up front with her and I am in the backseat, I am not as frightened. Lol! He is much calmer with her driving than I am and she has not made any major mistakes to scare me. It's just my nature as the mother of four to worry,
I would want my trainer by my side during anything that stresses me until I can overcome it. Going through a tricky part (construction, steep mountain passes, raining at night), I want them there....driving on I-15 from Vegas to Salt Lake City, he can take a nap. He should also be teaching him proper logging, the qualcom, and company policy along the way. They can talk about those things on breaks or while one is driving and the other isn't.
A good trainer should be there to TRAIN the driver, not make a few extra dollars. I hope y'all are able to work this out to his and your satisfaction. I would hate to see a good driver quit due to a bad teacher.
Baseball Sweetheart
COVENANT -- From a wife's perspective
Discussion in 'Discuss Your Favorite Trucking Company Here' started by Redcoat wife, Aug 31, 2008.
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Hey Redcoat. I was asked to come and talk to you. My hubby is with Central Refrigerated. He had a problem just like your hubby is having. His first trainer was a nightmare. He wouldn't stop to shower or eat. He wouldn't let him sleep so he got like 4-5 hours sleep in 4 days. The guy told him to speed through construction zones. Never once showed him how to use the qualcom. He did nothing but constantly complain and yell about everything. On the 5th day, my hubby was so tired from lack of sleep, he decided to pull over (while his so called trainer slept) and rest. The guy proceeded to yell at him for it and was ticked off because he was gonna have to drive. My hubby had had enough. He told him to call the DM and tell him he needed a couple days off for family reasons. The DM said that was fine and the trainer dropped him off. My hubby called the DM and told them he wanted another trainer. The DM understood and told him that not all people mesh and would get him another trainer. My hubby came home for a week and was really upset about the experience. He actually had second thoughts of going back but decided to give it another try. He called the DM again and he said he had set him up with one of his best trainers. That day he left for Fontana Calif. to wait for his new trainer. The next day, he was out again driving. This trainer is 110% better then the last. My hubby is now happy with this trainer. They get along great and the guy just gives suggestions to help and doesn't yell. He is showing him the best places to stop for gas and to eat. He has even gotten him home to see me for at least a few hours in just the week he has been with him. He is gonna try and get him home to see us, even if it is only a couple hours once a week. Your hubby needs to tell them he needs another trainer. You have that right. Your hubby needs to feel comfortable with the person he is riding with. Good luck and tell him to request a new one right away. This will save both of you the stress and worry.
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A new driver should be allowed to drive at a speed that they fell comfortable with though a construction zone, rain etc.
I had problems driving through construction zones when I first started driving but I was able to adjust my speed to a comfortable speed After a while I was doing the speed limit through there. -
Thanks for all the new advice. Wolfden, yours was the story I had read in another thread. CornCob you ask a legitimate question. Redcoat doesn't have many hobbies but the ONE thing he does enjoy are all things that have motors in them. He also likes stuff that is big and powerful and he likes to travel. He was always studying the pros and cons of various makes of trucks. That is why he thought he'd like this kind of work and it fit in well with the way we live since I have to travel a lot for my work. The only thing he didn't like was not being able to see me for weeks at a time while he trained but he resigned himself to the fact that it was unavoidable in the beginning.
You all are right in that construction zones, bad weather and night time driving are not going to go away and are part of the job. I think his problem probably really started in the second or third day when he was put into the position of having to deal with these challenges by himself while his trainer slept and it just freaked him out. Now just the thought of having to do this just petrifies him. He is definitely in a high state of anxiety during these times.
He needs to get away from it for a while to heal his mind. When he decides to go back, he'll definitely need a good trainer that will have patience with him until he can get his confidence back.
I am going to see how much luck I have by calling Covenant. I was trying to wait a few days to see if any Covenant trainers made a post in response to my question about if they taught their trainees the same way (i.e. just team driving from day one). But I guess they all either do it the same way or there are no Covenant trainers who have been reading this thread.
So I am going to call the company and tell them I need him home for family reasons (using Wolfden's suggestion). Not sure how specific I'm going to need to be but hopefully I can convince them that he's got to come off the road NOW.
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If they want specifics, tell them you need him at home for your medical reasons for a few days. They don't need to know everything. I know it will be hard for him to go back. It was hard for my hubby but he did it. He did get offered another electrical job after he went back on the road, but turned it down. He wants to finish this. It helped that he finally got a good trainer so he is staying. The stress of being away from family is a big part of the problem. They expect these new drivers to be away from their families for 6-7 weeks basically and that is hard. Once he was home with us and was able to spend time with us, he knew this was something he had to do. He knows we will be waiting for him, no matter what. Our youngest (10yo) went with me to pick him up. She was so excited seeing all those big trucks and wondering which her daddy was driving...lol...He wasn't there yet, but finally i saw a Central truck come off the freeway. She was jumping in her seat when she seen it pull in. It was dark but she was determined it was him driving. Once it parked we drove over and he got out of the drivers seat. She kept saying...See, i told you it was daddy! She couldn't stop talking and saying she missed him. He was only home about 6 hours, but he had no hesitation this time of going back on the road. He was relaxed and sounded great compared to the time with the other trainer. Your hubby shouldn't give up. There are trainers out there who actually care.
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BINGO!
If Redcoat waits too long to get back in the saddle,
he may find the stirrup is harder to reach.
Cowboy up, Redcoat --- you CAN do this.
You're not a bad trainee, or a bad driver. You just need
more aging, not unlike a fine wine.
And rest assured, by relating your experiences here, you
ARE helping others to open their eyes, know what they might
encounter, and be better prepared to deal with it.
Believe me/us when I/we tell you, with the proper trainer/training, this CAN be a fun experience.
Many of my trainees told me that they enjoyed their training period, and went on to be successful,
productive Big truck truck drivers.
IT'S NOT YOU --- IT'S THE TRAINER YOU HAVE NOW.
I've heard and read your same story from others many times,
and a change of trainers made a world of difference.
A good trainer who is a better fit can work magic with a trainee.
You have the potential to be a driver who is a cut above the rest.
You may not realize that now, but trust me on this one.
I've heard it said that:
There is no such thing as a bad student
just bad instructors.
Might just be true.
Ya reckon.
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When my husband went out with CRE, his trainer was one of the Greats. The man he was with was not only born to drive, he was born to TEACH. And not just driving! He not only handled teaching my husband about how to handle this new life-style, he helped me and the kids with it as much as he could!
His name was Ahmeer, and he had a dedicated run from Sacramento to Las Vegas, then to Phoenix and Tucson. And they were always at the same place between Phoenix and Tucson when Ahmeer stopped for morning prayers. While my husband is not a religious man, the obvious faith, and the sense of calm each morning when they returned to work really put my husband in a great frame of mind.
Because of Ahmeer's Middle Eastern background, he faced alot of prejudice after 9-11. And since my husband was with him, he faced it too. They got alot of bullying from DOT, from State Troopers, and sometimes, though rarely, from other drivers.
Ahmeer made sure that my husband called home, once he found out he hadn't been. And if "the timing was off" and he couldn't call me (ie, he had driven all night, or he had had no reception while he was awake) Ahmeer would call.
Ahmeer's wife, Yasmine, became invaluable to me. She called EVERY morning to discuss the day's plans. She helped me deal with the inevitable questions from the children.
When my hubby got seriously ill in Tucson, Ahmeer stopped the truck right outside town, and took care of him for a day and a half, then limped back to our FRONT DOOR!
The next week, Ahmeer became ill. And my husband spent 4 days sitting outside Yuma taking care of him..
THIS is how a good partnership works! These two worked SO WELL together that the two of them were seriously considering running team permanently. Unfortunatley, CRE would not let them.
We stayed in touch until just about 2 years ago... So if Ahmeer is out there somewhere, I would LOVE to hear from him!
Redcoat, I said all that to say this: there are excellant trainers out there! I know, because I have met them! If he insists on coming home, let him, but don't let him sit too long; he may decide to never go back!
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So with my past history out, What RedCoat needs to do now take the information he has of the problem and learn how to coup with it, how to channel it to a positive way. Such as you should slow down in construction zones anyway, slow while driving in rain anyway. Channel it to help in doing just that. May save his or a Construction workers life.
My wording may not be the best way to explain it, so I hope you do not take it wrong.
I do appreciate reading these post on how it going for it will help me also in what to do and not to do. I have a small goal of becoming a trainer. Some reason I want to teach others. So yes I am applying for a training company, not cause I need training, but I want to train.Last edited: Sep 9, 2008
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Now, that right thar is an inspiring post, GuysLady.
And a classic example of what caliber of trainers ARE out there.
GOOD trainers take pride in their trainees, and do EVERYthing
they can to help a trainee adjust to the lifestyle of Big truck truckin'.
BTW, I hope Redcoat starts posting here in the near future.
Not so much about truckin', but about England. Many of us have
never been there, and most of us probably never will experience
that Country. I, for one, would love to hear about life across the pond.
How 'bout it Redcoat?
Kick your shoes off, sit down, relax, and let's just talk.
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Just telling it like I saw it Sweetheart!
And I'm with Shocky! I've wanted to see England for years. But let's be real, that's not gonna happen. So tell him to get his bottom in front of the 'puter and start sharing!!
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