CR England- continual practice of deception and theft

They say they don't, but in their case, and in mine, they certainly did.

 

i was leased on to kllm in jackson ms for about 8 months. my checks normally were 1800 net. and yes in this economy i have left but not due to anything about them. i have friends with england and when they tell me they have ran 3961 miles for the week and the pay was 16.00 i give kllm number to them. i dont know how many you folks have to get stolen from to finally learn but #### guys!!!! kllm is a good co but they are like the safest fleet in the country, we get waived thru all checkpoints and checks but that comes at a price. you must run legal. and by legal i mean by the letter. not for everyone but a solid company and they do what they say and dont steal from you. i know nothing about the company trucks. mine is not a leased truck

 

$16 will get you a shower, 2 burritos and a large coke. -but that has to last a week.

=Fleece

If your shower is free or if you just plain don't like to shower -you got it made.

 

Ronin,

Maybe I'm being a little picky here, but your numbers don't add up. I am sure that you had a bad time with the lease, but why embellish to make it sound worse than it is? Nothing personal, but if you drove 103,000 miles in 6 months like you say then you have to drive an average of 3,946 paid miles a week. If you were making that kind of miles at .90¢ CPM you have a weekly settlement of $3551 before anything was taken out. Even if CRE took $2000 out for costs, payment, and fuel, you'd still have over $1550 a week before taxes. and would have made $40,300 before taxes in six months.

Look, I'm not trying to cause trouble, but if you're going to s&*t on a company at least make sure your numbers hold water.

In the words of Judge Judy - "If it doesn't make sense, it isn't true."

Sorry, just my 2¢

 

you guys have hit the nail on the head. There are lease operator trainers that are running over 5000 miles a week and only bringing home $1100.00 a week. No wonder that cre drivers are so #### skinny. They never eat

 

At 7mpg he would have spent about $1500 just on fuel a week. And that is before the CRE vultures tack on payment, escrow, and all the other BS charges they are famous for screwing drivers with. Maybe you're the one who needs to get your facts straight. $1100 a week with that bunch of rats is a tremendous week. Quit watching losers like Judge Judy. When was the last time you saw that skeezer out in a truck?

 

can anyone give me a straight answer on what exactly the .14 cent a mile variable is for the crengland lease operators?

 

I have all of my settlements scanned into jpg files and will be glad to post them. Out of a $4,000 settlement, CRE took .14 cpm for variable mileage, .7 for maintenance (which they kept all of), and of course fuel, and over $900 a month for truck insurance. Having my wife team with me cost me an additional $190 per week in worker's comp...but the miles only increased by 500-100 per week from solo miles.

I'll be glad to debate you on this, and I won't be disrespectful to you like you were to me. Math doesn't lie, I'll show everyone the numbers, easy enough.

Out of a typical 5,000 mile week, getting paid $4,500 gross, we usually netted $700-800...for both of us.

 

The "variable mileage offset" is simply depreciation. They're double dipping, big time. They depreciate their trucks (for tax purposes) as any company would, so they get to deduct/write off the depreciation, effectively negating that amount against their taxable income..AND they pull .14 cpm from the lease operator, directly offsetting that same tax break.

You're PAYING them to depreciate their trucks, AND they get the tax break, too - you don't.

 

First, I wasn't disrespectful to you.

Second, you claimed that you drove 109000 in six months. If you got that many miles in 6 months you have nothing to complain about as a solo driver (a solo making those miles would be cooking the books a bit I wager).

Look, all anyone wants is factual information, particularly when they're cornered with only CRE as an option (read my blog on this site to get the details).

All I was saying is that an average of over 3900 miles a week is fairly incredible in this economy. If you're a trainer and / or you run as a team that's different and you need to point that out. In which case, I was mistaken, I apologize. It seemed like you were speaking from a disgruntled solo lease ops point of view in the original post that I responded to.

There's no sense to throwing around accusations that are unwarranted. It would be an amazing help if you could post one of your settlements so we could see what we're getting in to before we're roped in as well.

If possible I'd love to look at the contract, as you can imagine they don't want to give me one before I go to the "training (refresher course) ... whatever".

No hard feeling. And no disrespect meant, ever.