Cr England lease

Discussion in 'CR England' started by bre1979, Jul 12, 2008.

  1. sarendstrucker

    sarendstrucker Bobtail Member

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    I am really searching for any other options just because of all the negativity i hear on this forum about CRE. None of the other companies i can find will provide CDL training and still ofer a reasonable pay rate. Whereas CRE is offereing as O/O $.90 CPM minimum and so thats what I base my predicted pay off of. Most who talk about CRE whether it be negative or neutral are all saying that they offer enough miles if you are reasonable enough to accept that you actually work for them and when they offer you a chance to add to your paycheck its probly best thing to just say yes whether you had other plans for that saturday or not. If they say, "hey haul this load of carrots to north dakota even tho its only a 500 mile trip" you still except it and be happy to. That is my outlook on the job market.
     
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  3. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You are going to get criticism by coming on here and telling those that have gone before you and gotten screwed by the likes of CRE that they don't know what they are talking about and you who doesn't hold a CDL, driven a truck or owned a trucking business that you know what you are doing.

    A CENTS PER MILE lease is a bad idea....

    A FLEECE PURCHASE IS ALWAYS A BAD IDEA... Its a good idea for the company but not for the driver.

    You say you have good credit now.......... well you won't when CRE gets done with you.


    But hey.......... don't listen to us, we don't know what we are talking about. Me personally have only lost $30,000 on a FLEECE purchase gone bad, but I accept that you are smarter than me and I don't know what I'm doing.

    I am done with trying to talk you out of screwing yourself.
     
  4. Big Duker

    Big Duker "Don Cheto"

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    Save your breath Brick. You got enough drama in your life already without wasting any energy trying to save someone from themselves. The evidence is there for all to see. The posts here and on many other blogs run 10 to 1 against even getting involved with CRE much less leasing anything from them. But there are suckers being born and dying as we speak and CRE knows it. That's why there will always be midways at carnivals, pyramid get rich schemes, fast talking used car salesman, and CR England. You can't protect some people from their own greed. Unless Daddy left it to you, trucking is hard and at CRE it can be unbearable.
     
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  5. firstgear

    firstgear Light Load Member

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    Why anyone would sign a lease without running atleast a year over the road to get a feel for things is beyond me.:biggrin_2554:
     
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  6. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    Very good thinking. Get the hang of driving, and make sure it's what you really want to do before thinking about going o/o or lease operator. Either one is a big investment.
     
  7. sarendstrucker

    sarendstrucker Bobtail Member

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    I didnt come on here to tell you that your all wrong, i came on here to find out why you say what you say. You know i may not be a driver right now, but its for sure that its what i want to do. No matter what. You all say leaseing is the wrong way to go. Well why cant you go and explain that. No one seems to want to tell me or anyone else like me why it is that you shouldnt lease from a company. One of you said it put you in the hole $30000?? Why not say how. Sureley there was a reason that more than likely didnt involve CRE doing anything to spite you. I dont know maybe it was but thats my point. ALL IM GETTING is negative but no one wants to explain what really happened. Please, dont take this the wrong way and get all defensive like u have been. Im just trying to get some answers here to lead me in the right direction. Because I put all the numbers together, the way they show it to work is that your truck payment is around $500 weekly for a BRAND NEW TRUCK. That means that your not going to get this lease and right off the bat be paying for all kinds of repairs which is probly where you got that, "im in the hole $30000". I wouldnt sign on for their lease unless they had a brand new truck sitting there so i know its in fine working order. Wont have to wrry about it for a little bit. ALSO........ of all the bad talk about CRE some do talk about they have one good point and that is that you normally get plenty of miles. 3000 a week is what im looking forward to, well actually i would drive 300,000 a week if i could but lets not get out of hand :biggrin_255: But even if you got a small check for one week say only 2000 miles, if you only got that little then its cause you ran smaller loads which pay a lot more. So it evens out. Im just giving you a good example of a good case scenario and ide like to have all of you tell me about what could or has gone wrong for you. So i know what to look for and whether to do this or not.


    Im one who doesnt just take someones word for what they are telling me, if you dont have any facts or true life stories to comment about then please dont respond. Thank you have a nice day.
     
  8. Baack

    Baack Road Train Member

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    ON the tool bar is a tab for doing a search
    Do a search of others who have gone the lease option
    We have had hundreds of people post about their experiences
    Trust me it will be an eye opening experience
     
  9. sarendstrucker

    sarendstrucker Bobtail Member

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    You are going to get criticism by coming on here and telling those that have gone before you and gotten screwed by the likes of CRE that they don't know what they are talking about and you who doesn't hold a CDL, driven a truck or owned a trucking business that you know what you are doing.

    A CENTS PER MILE lease is a bad idea....

    A FLEECE PURCHASE IS ALWAYS A BAD IDEA... Its a good idea for the company but not for the driver.

    You say you have good credit now.......... well you won't when CRE gets done with you.


    But hey.......... don't listen to us, we don't know what we are talking about. Me personally have only lost $30,000 on a FLEECE purchase gone bad, but I accept that you are smarter than me and I don't know what I'm doing.

    I am done with trying to talk you out of screwing yourself.
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    First off what do you mean never get on with a cents per mile lease. The only company i seen that offers anything different is Shneider, and their second option reads that you make %65 of the trucks revenue. Is that the better way to go??? I didnt consider that one because i couldnt find any facts that would show how much the trucks revenue is on average so i couldnt make any real figures as to how much would be paid for this or that.

    Also, what do you mean by FLEECE purchase?? What is FLEECE purchase? Please explain how you lost your ### on that one.



    Last thing, "but I accept that you are smarter than me and I don't know what I'm doing.

    I am done with trying to talk you out of screwing yourself." Im not saying im smarter than you in any way, all im doing is trying to keep myself from making a big mistake that if i hadnt read this forum it wouldnt even be going through my mind to not go through with this. Im sure you know what your doing but not everyone tells both sides of the story. I just want to hear what really happened and then ill give more input on it. thank you ​
     
  10. sarendstrucker

    sarendstrucker Bobtail Member

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    Well thanks to one of the guys reporting on one of these forum pages i have made a decision to steer clear of ol' CRE. All of you had a good influence on that but ive done some more searching and now ill be trying out Prime*. They seem to have a great lease operator program. The way it works is you go through what lots of people claim to be one of the best training programs which last you about a total of 8-9 months is the way i figure it. Then i can get into their lease program which they have it to where if something happens, i get bad sick or anything i can just walk away from the lease and it will not affect my credit. Not like i plan to walk out on it but its just good to know that they cant screw you over like you talk about CRE likes to do. If you get towards the end and they cut ur miles just walk away. The pay is good at 72% of the revenue. Which their website says is a weekly average of $1.60 per mile. Good discounts on fuel. I believe thats who ill go with and just pay my outrageuos truck payment of around $800 or less weekly (they say that includes insurance, tags, etc). Ive been reading the post about that company here and theres not much bad to be said. Some but much more good. After i complete the lease with them I will be given lease completion bonuse pluse this other amount that they hold for if you go over 2500 miles a week. They refund all this at completion which that should be enough to make a substantial down on my own truck then ill be outa the truck payment of theirs but i think i can handle it till then. Someone else was reporting about them doing just what i explained here and hes banking after all expenses something like $1200-$1500 weekly!! Im only making about 700-800 weekly with this heavy equipment operating that im in now. Everyone wish me luck on this cause now i really have made my mind up what im doing. :biggrin_255: THanks for all input!!!
     
  11. Big Duker

    Big Duker "Don Cheto"

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    Prime can be better than CRE, but you are still buying the companies equipment for them. You are taking all the risk for a huge corporation. My suggestion {which is worth just what it cost you} would be to get trained and go to work for a company. After a year if you still like driving then look into buying your own truck and leasing on with a company. There are many programs out there like Freightliners 1st start which will let you buy a preowned rig with a warranty for as little as $1000. down and 3-5 years to pay it off. Good friend here did just that. He got a 03 FL w/100,000 mile warrany. Payments are $1650. month. And his credit sucked. Has put over 300k on truck in about 3 years with one minor breakdown which they covered no questions asked. Did keep his truck for 3 days but that is not too big a headache in this business. It's no fancy Pete or KW but he has rigged it out to his liking and it does what is most important-starts, runs , gets good mileage, and makes money.
    Good luck to you whatever you decide.:biggrin_25525:
     
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