More problems. I got out to water the tires yesterday and looked at the front springs and noticed the frame was cracking verticly. The crack appears to have started under the spring hanger at the bottom bolt that bolts to the flange on the frame. Funny thing is the frame is doubled right to the rear of the spring hanger! Anyways it cracked where it only has a single frame. So what caused it? Well I juyst replaced motor mounts which are only an inch or 2 right of the hangers. Got down in some mud the other day grossing 85k and was givin it hell to keep going even down in Low Low reverse All that torque from the n14 500hp? Or the fact that the spring hangers there caused it? Or a few loads I did gross 95k just to much weight? Anyways current plans to fix the frame are.. "V" the crack and fill it and grind it flush. Cover it in 1/4 steel from the end of the double frame stright to the front on the frame so about 5 feet. Only thing is to put in the 1/4 steel we will have to mill the hangers 1/4 inch to accomidate the new steel. Its impossible to work from the inside of the frame. So this is the current plan sound like an ok one? Will it add to the strength of the frame? Btw 95 KW t800 quad axle dump. 20k front end
Cracked frame under front spring hanger kwt800
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Metal will stress with time. Before you weld it, drill a 1/8"-1/4" hole at the end of the crack. That will prevent it from spreading further.
I would clean it up and grind you a channel like you said and run atleast 3 passes. I wouldn't grind it flush. Just clean it up and paint it.
A plate would make it stronger, but it's a rust trap. Put it on the back side if you can. Protect your tires from the schlag if you leave it on.Gears Thanks this. -
disconnect the batteries before welding if it's electronic
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Many C-channel frames cannot be welded. There is often a tag on the frame, or sometimes it is stamped right into the frame web.
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Not an uncommon problem on KW. I had to fix my 96 and my brothers 01,these were 900L's V it out weld it up and put an insert on the inside.
I didn't do any pre or post heating and I did mine over a year ago.
If mine cracks again i'm going to see if the hangers from a later model will work they are bigger and spread the load better. -
i might be able to help here. i was an x-ray welder for 14 years in between my 2 tours of duty as a truck driver. groove it out and make sure it`s clean. weld both sides, put the ground as close to your work as you can. you do need to pre heat it as far as stress relieving it. ( slow cool down) without the proper equipment you`re s.o.l. wrapping it in insulation is a waste of time. weld it, grind it and bolt a piece of plate over it and you`ll never have to worry about that spot again.
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never heard that someone manage to crack frame on front axle
i can see it sometimes near rear end on construction trucks with T ride leaf springs so very hard suspension while rear end is overloaded for more than 40-50% than it is rated and used on hard terrain
i would consider to make reinforcements (twin frame) at place where it was cracked ....
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