Crazy securement you have seen?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by brads6.9., Jul 23, 2016.

  1. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    2 state codes do not set the precedence for the entire country, or the FMCSA. The FMCSA is what we are to initially go by, we are also to abide by different states requirements. This discussion from my recollection, never pertained to any one state in particular. You drug a couple states into this to try and validate your opinion.
     
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  3. MJ1657

    MJ1657 Road Train Member

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    I completely understand.

    I questioned your experts. Your experts are anonymous posters on an internet forum. That's all.
     
  4. Stang

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    States are allowed to have stricter regs on securement, I've driven wreckers, I've been around wrecker drivers. I don't blame states that have stricter regs on cars.

    If the feds wanted 4 tiedowns on cars it would look like this.

    (c) Securement of heavy vehicles, equipment or machinery with crawler tracks or wheels. (1) In addition to the requirements of paragraph (b) of this section, heavy equipment or machinery with crawler tracks or wheels must be restrained against movement in the lateral, forward, rearward, and vertical direction using a minimum of four tiedowns.

    Instead they say this.

    (b) Securement of automobiles, light trucks, and vans. (1) Automobiles, light trucks, and vans must be restrained at both the front and rear to prevent lateral, forward, rearward, and vertical movement using a minimum of two tiedowns.

    When you put them back to back it shows what they mean. If both regs mean the same thing (four tie downs) why write different numbers?
     
  5. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    You do understand that's the common thought process of Californians, dont you? A California local tow truck driver on an international open deck forum telling everyone that he's an expert. At what? Copying and pasting California tow truck regs.
    You quote to him the US and Canadian FMCSA regs for open deck securement and he tells you thats YOUR opinion. Dont you know California tow truck regs supersede all US and Canadian open deck regs.

    I do understand, however, why tow truck regs would require 4 point securement. They use tire lassos for securement. Apparently, there were a bunch of tow truck operators who would secure a car to a rollback with 2 tire lassos. You need 4 in order to be effective.

    I guess that means California legislatures believe that California tow truck drivers are pretty stupid.
     
  6. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    CA legislatures think everyone is stupid!
     
  7. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    Means a lot coming from you, really I mean that. But I'm secure in my knowledge enough to know this isn't an argument I'm willing to continue. I have a LOT learn but it's not in this thread.
     
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  8. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    Amen!!! The state of California has determined less than 4 tie downs is know to cause cancer.
     
  9. AModelCat

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    So being that this post started all this, was it adequate? Bearing in mind I know next to 0 about securement regulations.
     
  10. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    It was legal.
     
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  11. 4mer trucker

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    Geez Dude, U have been a member of this forum for all of a week and Ya decide to jump into a thread and challenge all these knowledgeable fella's

    What's Ur point???

    And yes, I do think Ur full of IT and YOURSELF
     
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