Crazy securement you have seen?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by brads6.9., Jul 23, 2016.

  1. Ke6gwf

    Ke6gwf Medium Load Member

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    I never referred to myself as an expert.

    I have said from the beginning that the way I, and some enforcement officers, read the FMCSA rules, is to require 4 tiedowns, and that is also how the Tow Truck industry teaches it.

    I then showed 2 states that made it very clear that 4 are required. (And have not tried to find others)

    I assume most of you to be Interstate drivers, which means that no matter what FMCSA says, if you are driving Interstate with a vehicle on your trailer, you either need to apply 4 tiedowns, or check the State regs for each state you are going to be in.
    (including your home state. Anybody want to find out if your state has specific regs, or how they interpret the FMCSA and post back here? )

    From my memory, every Auto Carrier that I have ever seen uses 4 point tiedowns as well.

    So it seems to be pretty standard, except you read a poorly written code the way that makes it easier for you...
     
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  3. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    There's no argument...just another person purposely acting stupid. He's an expert because the Rollback Association and Liftgate Forum, or RALF, an online tow truck community gave him a certificate. What the heck does that mean? Absolutely nothing.
     
  4. Ke6gwf

    Ke6gwf Medium Load Member

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    So my status on the forum is more important than real world experience? Lol

    I have read on here for a long time, and finally signed up to become more involved, but I have been doing this work for a long.

    Also, these "experts" that have been insisting only 2 tiedowns are required, are giving bad advice unless they specify what states they are familiar with. Because as interstellar drivers, chances are you are going to end up in a state that requires 4 tiedowns, and saying that it is a blanket rule for 2 is wrong, even if the FMCSA only requires 2 by your interpretation.
     
  5. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Now what everyone reaaaallly wants to know...is he still sporting that Prince Valiant hairdue...
     
  6. Ke6gwf

    Ke6gwf Medium Load Member

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    Oh.... I must have gotten someone mad!

    Dropping to personal insults instead of looking at the industry standards, and specific state laws....
     
  7. street beater

    street beater Road Train Member

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    Your dating yourself again six....
     
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  8. Ke6gwf

    Ke6gwf Medium Load Member

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    Heh...
    I just used my current FB profile pic to sign up until I get a better truck pic for it, but my dad's haircuts were one of the things I hated most about my childhood!
     
  9. TripleSix

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    Just ignore him before the admin closes an excellent thread. We already lost Skoot. Don't want to lose any more.
     
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  11. Stang

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    Did you read my earlier post about how you have to read the other sections of the reg to completely understand the reg?

    Specificaly I'm referring to this portion of the California reg.
    (e) For purposes of this section, a "tow truck" includes both of
    the following:
    (1) A repossessor's tow vehicle, as defined in subdivision (b) of
    Section 615.
    (2) An automobile dismantler's tow vehicle, as defined in
    subdivision (c) of Section 615.

    Or Washington
    (8) Class "E" tow trucks: Trucks that are primarily designed and intended to transport other vehicles by loading and carrying the transported vehicle entirely on the truck. These vehicles may be a flatbed, slide back, tilt bed, or rail design truck. Class "E" trucks, unless specifically factory equipped with a side recovery system, are not designed for vehicle recovery and therefore must not be used as a replacement for a class "A" truck unless specifically authorized by the patrol.

    Those regulations only apply to tow trucks, not flatbeds or step decks.
     
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