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Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by sashadow, Mar 23, 2011.

  1. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    corneileous ... I hashed this all out with you almost a year ago, when I was still with CRE. Interestingly enough you are quoting the numbers in your last paragraph that I gave you last year.
     
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  3. sashadow

    sashadow Bobtail Member

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    wow such responces,,, drvrtech seems your a little frustraited,,, whats the reason? have we failed recently? if you failed why ? as far as the turning down loads,,, i used to take everything ,,, then i explained the numbers with my cost per day to maintain my truck with payment,insurance and permits,,, if i had a load with say 3 drops and they were over 2 days with only 450 paid miles,, well it would cost me over 400 at the end of the week to take that load,,, i started turning them down and sending in the numbers on why i was turning it down,,, there was no repercussions only phone calls from my dm ,,, and i would ask him is this a foeced dispach company? if no then change the policy or get with the planner and get more money for the load,,, and i nevrrrrrrrrr gave up my dead head miles on the next load,,, most can understand poor planning and poor math,,, stick to your guns when you have 2 feet to stand on and youll be ok,,, as far as the cap what a joke,,, the cap is desined for all starting out to be in a comfort zone,,, once you learn to drive and to control your fuel the natural progression is to go on the rebate,,, my last settlement b4 vacation i was getting 41 cents per mile on the rebate, i exausted all my reserve fuel and sitting on E in the yard,,, i paid .78 cents per gallon,,, my norm is .86 cents,,, i run on paper 7.51 ,,, on dash at 7.7 to 7.9 on a weekly average,
    as for the .14 cent variable milage it was up front i dont like it ,,, and as far as i know its the profit for horizon and england,,, the way it was explained to me was kind of like renting a car and they say the first 200 miles are free then we charge .25 cents a mile,,, the refer freight as i understand it is running over 1.78 a mile right now and the rebate on average is over .55 a mile,,,, thats where the dms planners safety loggs ect make there money and because they dont pay the accual load miles only the zip to zip miles,,, when you have 4000+ trucks shaving on average 12% of the accual miles then i think you can make 48 million in 2009 and i havent seen the numbers for 2010,,, anyway its all there,, its all up front ,,, if you cant handel the heat get out of the kitchen as my dad would say,,, company driving is safe and easy,,, and forced,,, being a lease op with the ability to own a truck within 4 1/2 years of the trucks start life with horribleeeeeeee credit as mine,,, with the resources as i had and still have ,,, as the man said above stated ,,, if i break down i make a call,, if i need to get to a hotel while its repaired the cab is called,,, the hotel is paid for ,,,if i have a question i can ask why why why to 200 people in 1 day,,, and i will get an answer ,,, being negative about realities is futile as far as the pay off amount,,, its a excell sheet based off the accual miles of the truck,,, the base line is 500,000 miles at 3 years compleation of the lease,,, if you have less than 500k you will pay more if you have more than 500k you will pay less,,, the average is around 43,000 and wow england finaces you on 43,000 dollars for a 2009 cascadia with 500,000 miles,,, the 14 cents variable goes away when you go to the purchase end of it .. the pay stays the same, so do the math ,,, the payments are almost paid by the addition of the 14 cents to your revenue and in 1 1/2 years you own the truck,,, hmmm so many had poor trainers,,, so many dont have a concept of the buisness,,, so many super truckers dont train and only complain about the new guys and mega carriers,,, so many awsome carries paying so well dont offer to train new guys...
    lifes to short and i wish you all well,,, be angry be confused and get no where in life,,, learn to play the hand thats delt and i think it will be less confussing and possibly profitable,,, ask questions ask questions learn learn learn,,, sorry for the quick unfocused reply but i got hugs to give my son and jeepneys to ride,,, tc all
     
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  4. TEXASBOUND

    TEXASBOUND Light Load Member

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    I do not drive for CRE but I sure have met lots of them on the road and that $1.25 per gallon for fuel is hardly ever possible with all the criteria you have to meet to the fuel at that price. also the $.80 cpm for deadhead what a joke
     
  5. TEXASBOUND

    TEXASBOUND Light Load Member

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    Cormelious my friend if you are making it there you are in the minority the facts and numbers do not lie. It is true all companies are out to make a profit and alot of the time it is at the drivers expense. But understand this no other large carrier does it with the boldness of CRE
     
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  6. sashadow

    sashadow Bobtail Member

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    the 1.25 hmmm how is it hard to obtain? you have to run 5.8 miles per gallon and fuel where there optamizer says to fuel ,, its not hard at all and once you learn to drive for fuel savings and economy its just like throwing money away to be on the cap... what does boldness mean? upfront and honest? why is .80 a joke for dead head miles? do you think england plans the dead head? or is it absorbed into the 12% they take from the zip to zip,,, idk ,,,, who do you work for that you can recomend is better texas bound? for new drivers ....
     
  7. corneileous

    corneileous Road Train Member

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    I talked with a few other drivers in person along with englands ic department to understand it better. We're still on the cap, though.

    Probably not that it really matters at this point but is that all the info you have? Were these drivers saying why the cap requirements were too hard to meet? What kind of trucks were they driving? Solo's or teams? Did these people look like or sound like they were competent enough to be managing a business? Did you feel they were telling the truth?

    The reason I ask this is because I've talked to a few other fellow englanders that are struggling and some of them, its hard to keep from laughing. Some of these people got no business driving a truck, much less trying to run a business with one.
    You know, instead of saying its a joke, why not share why you think its a joke for making 80cpm, a measily 10 cents a mile less for pulling a trailer with nothin but air in it? Sounds like an ok deal with me. Look at it this way; how many 9-5 jobs out there, the ones where you have to drive your car and use your gas to get to and from work, will pay you from your home to the office much less from the office to home?

    The reason I am the minority is because the majority and I really mean the majority of info ever said on here is negative.

    Where are these facts? Oh wait, I know, they're all over cluttering this place. Before anyone rips that last statement to shreds, I'm sure there's probably some legit claims but how can everybody believe every single one of them are true? Are people so blind, or are they just picking and choosing what they read on a web forum is fact or fiction?
    Your right about the first part because isn't that the whole idea? I love bein out on the road but I sure as hell ain't doin it for free.

    How do you know englands profit is made off of their drivers expense?

    What, just because you, like so many others believe every sob story that comes across here? Look around a little harder, pal. There are just as many gripes about the other companies not just England.
     
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  8. hotrod1653

    hotrod1653 Road Train Member

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    Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls... Presenting our new Golden Fleece award winner..

    Corneilous!!!

    C'mon.. Paying a fee to use office people, not being able to name your load and not being paid dead head if you refuse a load? This is my answer to this: :biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559:

    Seriously though... Do you work in recruiting by chance? Fleet mgt? Or better yet... The leasing dept? Do you consider yourself a true o/o? I hope not, cause i don't think you could make it. :biggrin_25513:
     
  9. hotrod1653

    hotrod1653 Road Train Member

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    company driving is safe and easy,,, and forced

    Really? At some companies it might be forced. It isnt where i work. I go where i want, when i want. No forced dispatch, load choices and time if i want it. Yes, it is safe. Somewhat easy.

    I can work on my truck, if i choose. If i break down, my hotels and everything else is paid for.

    You are under forced dispatch, making CRE's truck payments for them. Do you consider yourself your own boss? Cause your not. Good luck with the golden fleece my friend. :biggrin_255:
     
  10. corneileous

    corneileous Road Train Member

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    You just think yer soooooooo funny, don'tcha? It's people like you that are just a pure waste of space.
    Laugh all you want. Really shows what kind of person most people are these days. Disrespectful, rude, ignorant and just plain worthless.

    You would think people would be interested to hear the things I say about my experience with such a looked down upon company but nope, you'd rather poke fun and act like a bunch of elementary kids. You people really need to grow up and act your age.


    LOL, just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper.

    You are a sad, sad soul my friend. I come in here and report my experience and I get labeled as a recruiter of all things.
    What gave you that impression? At what point did I ever even hint thinking I was an O/O?

    You don't think I could make it, huh? Interesting. Well, you know what they say, "Opinions are like xxxholes.... Everybody's got one and most of them stink.".
     
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  11. TEXASBOUND

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    Look friend if you are making it I am happy for you. But if the odds were truly in the drivers favor at England than why are there so many former England drivers out there? You are right alot of drivers are not up to snuff or maybe even incompetent but understand this that is actually the type of drivers they want. You cannot tell me they want competent business savvy drivers that is simply not their target. I worked their from 97 til 2001 as a company driver for 2 yrs and than a trainer for 2 yrs. It wasnt the best place back than pay wise but as far as the training goes it was more thorough. A student stayed with his primary trainer a minimum of 25,000 miles or until he was deemed ready to go solo. None of this 1st phase 2nd phase stuff. The 2nd phase trainer is nothing more than a recent solo grad who is leasing a truck and they are helping him along by throwing a student in with him for abt 3 to 4 wks so he can hopefully run more miles and not sink so fast. I've met 2nd phase trainers at England who haven't hit their 1 yr driving mark yet. All I am saying is that CRE is like a large discount store there maybe a few good bargains there but a majority of the product isn't that good. And Cornelius even in Vegas there are a few people that win but it does not compare to all the people who lose. Continued success
     
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