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Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by sashadow, Mar 23, 2011.

  1. sashadow

    sashadow Bobtail Member

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    i am my own boss,,, i am not an O/O,,, i am not under forced dispatch and i dont put the independant decals on the truck but i am in the phillippines on a 3 week vacation i do have 10,000 in my maintainace account and all seems to be working well,,, what company do you work for that is so good to new hires with a brain? work on my truck ? why would i ? most of the truck is covered under a 750,000 mile warrenty,, and by the way when you work on your company truck,,hmmm how much do you get paid? i work for money or i dont work ,,, its a simple concept,,,and correct me if im wrong,, the lease is under the england umbrella but if i dont buy the truck then it goes back to freightliner where it is auctioned off,,, england doesnt buy the leased trucks so how would i be making a payment for england? anyway,,, i would realy be interested in knowing what company you work for and how do they treat newbees.. P.S you said i can work on MY truck,if i choose,,, correct me if im wrong but i was directing my statement to company drivers,,, is it your truck? tc my freind its all in fun and knowledge this site is great if more england drivers would be prepared for what they are walking into then i think they would stand a better chance,,, ingat po
     
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  3. sashadow

    sashadow Bobtail Member

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    i think the key is this is where you started ,,, this is where you worked for 4 years right ? its a training company wow with 1-4 years the job offers are pritty much endless,,, now if we back up to day one who else could you have worked for besides england? the point is the good companies dont hire newbees or what ever you want to call someone starting out,,and the thing about england is its not your mom and pop shop trucking company,, they have many fasets to the company,, and they do plan on failures,, as any good company should they factor the failures and accualy profit from it,,, be it in there schools ,the tax rebates and incentives or the hotels they own ,,, they have a buisness model that is the envey of the industry,,, am i wrong? they are not public traded,they loan money to other mega carrriers ummm swift ummm warner,,,
    But if the odds were truly in the drivers favor at England than why are there so many former England drivers out there? england as were talking about it is a training company,,, what companies can a wannabee truck driver go to where they will be viewed as an asset? i couldnt find one.. the odds are against you in the sence your learning a new trade and giving a company the burdon of responsability,,, some of the burdon is put off on the driver its called diversafacation i think ,,,, lifes not perfect but when i was down the opportunity was given to me ... if someone failes they have to look in the mirror and ask why and disern what the next course of action should be,,,, the buisness model is there success and faulure is there,,, so how is it the companies fault to those who fail,,,, give me one person that england would hire back and i would train them to make a profit,,, if there trainer did not train them well enough then whos to blame??? the trainer with one year experiance? or the student ?? seems to me it can go both ways but i was raised with the premise a closed mouth dont get fed and if the student didnt learn what they needed then why did they sign the lease or better yet why did they not ask for another trainer,,, because so many come to england like there going to hollywood they think they are ready as soon as they learn the backing 123 on the range,,, they dont take the time to think what they are accualy doing is learning a trade that will last them a life time and its up to them to get what they need,,, my first phase trainer started off with telling me I WILL HAVE DIAREEA OF THE MOUTH FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS BUT I WANT YOU TO ASK ME QUESTIONS ALSO ,,, and wow i did,,, i asked i practiced ,,, i sat up in the parking lot looking at others back in,,,, failure at this company can only be thrown on the ones that have failed,,, at any point in my training if i said waaaaaaaa im not getting it from this trainer,, then my training cordinator would have changed trainers,,, but it would have ment that i would have had to extend my 30 days in phase one possably,,, wow would any of the failures have accualy extended there training? i dont think so because most dont look at what it is,,, learning a new trade that is potentialy life threating and possably profitable to retirment age,,, to blame a company for failures is like asking someone to wipe your ### i think,,, you stayed there for 4 years ,,,, 2 as a company driver,,, i think you understand the premise behind the company,,, and for me to stay somewhere 4 years would have to mean i was some what grattified,,, england is a training company by at large,, and for newbees where would you have gone ? what would you have done differently? take care and cudose for staying with england for 4 years,,, your a success as far as im concerned..
     
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  4. TEXASBOUND

    TEXASBOUND Light Load Member

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    I stayed at CRE for 4 yrs and during my 4th and final year I could see the writing on the wall that the company was truly wanting to push the lease deal. i was a trainer on a dedicatred route LA to Miami. I would have trainees on the 1st day out with me and all they were talking about was the lease program. Seems that the school was pumping this idea and they were already gonna lease before knowing the business. CRE got upset with me a few times for talking my trainess out of leasing. First of all the trainees would ask me why wasn't I leasing? I was always upfront and honest I told them that I was doing just fine at $.28 cpm for all the miles the truck ran at 5400 miles a wk and a new trk every 6 mos. I told the lease director the same thing I told the trainees wait abt 6 mos to see if you really like this job and fully understand what it takes to be successful. I told trainees there are alot of failures cause the drvrs did not fully understand the commitment or the business. I was told by the lease director if I didn't have anything positive to say about the lease program to not say anything. It all comes down to this there are alot of lease purchase deals from various companies out there. We can all agreee on that. What makes CRE so unique or special in this category is the fact that they are or seem to be preying on newbies. New drivers that are entering this industry cause they are broke and think this is the way back above water, people that are homeless, people that are just curious about trucking. Than you have CRE with rows of brand new trks that these bright eyed individuals are looking at daily when they go to SLC. Makes it pretty hard to resist
     
  5. hotrod1653

    hotrod1653 Road Train Member

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    I get paid $50 an hour labor if i choose to work on the truck.. I am a company driver. I work for M. Bruenger of Wichita, Ks. They do not hire newbies here. I am given the choice of working on my truck, simple repairs i do. Difficult things? I let the mechs work on it.

    Keep up your good work there. Yes you are right, more CRE drivers would be better off to read this site before working there...

    See ya.. Be safe!
     
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  6. Bazerk Wizz Bang!

    Bazerk Wizz Bang! Medium Load Member

    How would the truck go back to england? The truck is leased to whom, you or crengland. Its leased to crengland they then take full responsibility for it and hold you to all the criteria, like payment ets. plus a bunch extra. How they get the trucks is easy, they pay it off when a L/O defaults on it.

    The numbers of the OP are a flat out lie. The numbers he or she has listed cannot be done in the time frame given under any circumstances theoretical or realistic in the time frame given. The numbers will not crunch! This poster also gave a bunch of BS about paid empty miles on an earlier post in reguards to improving paid MPG making OP more money which is just ludicrous, not just ludicrous, but funny ludicrous (way out there) ,all of which is 100% false. I know this for a fact. The OP simply doesnt have anybody to argue with who has experience with a CRE lease and all the policies, payments, deductions ets... who can call bluff on them. The numbers are all wrong, nothing the OP said can actually be done. I will say this, with 1.5+ years leasing, the OP is lying about his/her numbers. Not just a little but way way beyond anything even close to realistic. The equivalent to the numbers the OP gave is like saying one plus one equals 13. Three weeks off the truck is rotting its tires, 10K maintenance fund. Beyond impossible.

    The scary thing is people who dont have the knowledge may actually buying it. Maby somebody with a home and kids sees the OP's lies and goes for the CRE lease. That person will loose there house, maby there kids ets.... This kind of BS propaganda can really really hurt some one badly. Is it worth it to the OP? Does the OP even care? Is the OP looking for potentially becoming a recruiter by attempting to develop an honest reliable, knowledge able, even social repertoire, as a few have done on this form to gain pseudo respect from his peers, then use this as a tool to cash in on recruitment bonuses regardless of the destruction that they may cause a lot of innocent families and people. If that is the OP's intent, dont do it, the recruitment bonuses are not worth destroying innocent peoples lives over, hurting there families, just not worth it.
     
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  7. Bazerk Wizz Bang!

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    That was extremely well written. The only thing needed to be said, is that not only do they prey on the innocent, naive, or desperate, they hurt them badly. Many people are talked into the lease and made to believe that if they lease they can not only keep the house they are worried about loosing, but add a swimming pool for there kids next summer. The jump on it and no swimming pool, loose house, wife and kids homeless staying at a friend or relative, is the result of this kind of recruiting. These people have zero conscience and dont care how many innocent kids, women and families they destroy. The messed up part of it is the morman church tolerates these kinds of antics. I was never prejudice toward really anybody till working as a L/O for CRE. The idea that a church would stand behind a business that vitomizes innocent people the way that CRE does had made me extremely prejudicial towards mormons. What other kind of inhumane acts does this church support? If they sell there sole to the devil for a few bucks are they even really a church of christ, or are they a church of something else who hides behind the name Christ, because satanism is still to socially unaceptable? Not just on this website but many other websites are full of the stories of people being talked into the CRE lease with zero trucking experience and zero knowledge of the industry, they then loose there homes, there wifes, become homeless ets.. A lot of really really bad things, and no one at CRE even looses a seconds sleep, they just push the robbery even further, find new loopholes to extort and victimize innocent people.
     
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  8. sashadow

    sashadow Bobtail Member

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    wowzzzz what numbers arnt factual, what company do you lease with ? cre? and you tell me 10k is not possable? and recruitment bonuses? hahaha its 100 dollars and no its not worth it,,, like the man said above he would recomend company driving for 6 months,, if you think anything i said is B S then state what you think is B S..as fare as How they get the trucks is easy, they pay it off when a L/O defaults on it nope wrong son ,,, they lease it to another and another until the lease is done ,,, you think they buy it when the lease is complete? i dont think so ,, why would they ,,, can you image the prices they would get buying direct,,, ummm the rep for freightliner ( employed by freightliner) is bob england,,,
    you sound so passionate in your words ,, are you talking from experiance? if so i feel sorry for anyone going to england that looses there home kids etc,,, and i see how it could happen ,,, for me i lost my house and everything b4 i went to england i was at the rock bottom of bottom,,,
    would you advise anyone with a family to even get into the driving industry? my trainer drove for england for 13 years was a driver for 22 owns 5 trucks and the only thing he regretted in his life was not being there for his kids,,, and he also gave me a focus and a goal,,, my son is 1 1/2 years old,,, hes here in the phillipiines my goal is to walk him to school the first day of school ,,and as this site and others did for me i will prepare any and all for success,,, and if i ever get a man with kids and a house then i would advise company and then a dedicated or even daylight.. it wont make him rich but it would get him home,,,

    let me know what numbers you dont understand and i will clarrify the best i can,,, dont forget your words :biggrin_2556:,,,,,cannot be done in the time frame given under any circumstances theoretical or realistic in the time frame given. The numbers will not crunch! The numbers of the OP are a flat out lie.
     
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  9. ronin

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    Agreed, although the guy is sure trying to bash me and change the subject. I'm a hardworking guy with a great DAC, spotless MVR, and I went to England because I had some friends there and wanted a decent company where my wife and I could team.

    We ran every mile we were given, got fairly decent fuel economy (always hit their bogey) and took very little time off. The fact that the guy wants to bash me and change the subject is downright hilarious.

    Again, I'll be glad to post all of my settlements... you can see the miles, see that we took no advances, and very little time off - easy enough to tell because there are hardly any "dead" weeks where a bunch of miles were missed...in fact, time off amounted to 2 days a month for 6 months.

    It may be ok as a training company, for someone to enter the industry, get their CDL and run for 6 months... so they can get a job elsewhere - and not ever pretend they're going to make any money - but that's the only good I can see coming out of it.

    If this guy wants to have a battle of wits with smarmy comments, let's have at it - when it comes to wit, I'm armed.
     
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  10. sashadow

    sashadow Bobtail Member

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    they prey on the innocent, naive, or desperate, they hurt them badly,,,keep the house they are worried about loosing, but add a swimming pool ,,,These people have zero conscience and dont care how many innocent kids, women and families they destroy,,,,business that vitomizes innocent people the way that CRE does ,,,If they sell there sole to the devil for a few bucks ,,, wowz again such strong words and blame goes where? well maybe i have a job for you how about selling kerbee vacums or better yet some amway,,, if you are a grown man with a family then how are you going on what another person says for the sake of your family? who is to blame ? sounds like you cant take responsability for yourself if this happened to you like this and who gambals so much when they have a family? and house payment? ####z happens in life that is out of ones control but the true man is the one to role with the punches and adapt,,, i was told its all in my control to succeed or fail,,, i also crunched numbers and lisend then made my choices,,, i dont think there is any need to blame anyone but ones self for the failure,,, a man that would risk his house and family to jump into a trade that does nothing but keep him from the house and the family well maybe he was just looking for a way out anyway ,, hmmm something to think about,,, im still waiting on what is so un-theredical with my numbers,,, who do you work for that afforded you such a good oppertunity and respects you as an asset? im curious,,,and do they hire newbees and train?
    P.S if you lost everything due to working for england then the problems started b4 england and im sorry for all your losses but fundamentaly it wasnt england that took anything from you ,,, i hope things work out well for you ,,,
     
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  11. sashadow

    sashadow Bobtail Member

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    im not trying to bash you ,,, you were a team with your wife and didnt make good money ? wow i would like to know how that happened,,, thats like the perfect sinario to be a husband and wife team i think ,,, but if the primary reason was freinds going to england then i think it was an unfocused choice,,,
    but,,, running soft at even 4600 a week as a team you should have had no problem clearing 1500 right ? im not being a smart aaa but i would like to know how you didnt make money as a team... this is a new one to me,,,
     
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