The rig is non-commercial, it will be transporting 2 or 3 personal cars and then it will follow as the car drive cross country.
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Cross country trip and have a couple of questions
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by JM Motors, Apr 30, 2012.
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At 95 feet, I don't think there is a single state you would be legal in. If I read correctly the max legal length for a car hauler is 75 feet. What exactly are you hauling? If it can't be broke down, you will probably need guide vehicles, permits for each state. California has 45 foot max length for motor homes, 65 feet combination.
At that length, DOT would probably consider you commercial whether you think so or not.
Are sure on the length, in that pic it doesn't look longer then 60 to 65 feet.Last edited: Apr 30, 2012
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MapQuest says that his desired routing is 6845 miles; getting it done legally in 2 weeks by a solo CDL driver is pushing it, if it's even possible. 136 hours at 50mph average. And that's without considering the vehicle length issues. Any prospective driver will probably need a class A non-commercial, (without air brake restriction?) at a minimum. Since the driver is for-hire, I'd think he'd need a class-A CDL to be legal. And that means adherence to HOS.
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The rig in the picture is nowhere near 80 feet long.
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Well here is my next questions then. What do i do since Florida does not even have a non commercial class A license ?
http://www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/dlclass.html
there is the official link and the one place i keep getting referred to.
here is even a copy and paste in case some dont want to take the time to click the link
Driver License Classes and Endorsements
Commercial Driver Licenses (CDL)
CLASS A: Trucks or truck combinations weighing with a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of 26,001 lbs. or more, provided towed vehicle is more than 10,000 lbs.
CLASS B: Straight trucks weighing 26,001 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating or more.
CLASS C: Vehicles transporting placardable amounts of hazardous materials, or vehicles designed to transport more than 15 persons including the driver with a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of less than 26,001 lbs.
BackNonCommercial Driver Licenses
CLASS E: Any non-commercial motor vehicles with Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) less than 26,001 pounds, including passenger cars, 15 passenger vans including the driver, trucks or recreational vehicles and two or three wheel motor vehicles 50 cc or less, such as mopeds or small scooters. (see below). Farmers and drivers of authorized emergency vehicles who are exempt from obtaining a commercial driver license must obtain a Class E license.
- A resident who holds a valid Florida operator license may continue to operate vehicles for which a CLASS E driver license is required, until the operator license expires.
- 16 year olds cannot drive from 11 PM to 6 AM unless accompanied by 21 year old licensed driver or driving to and from work.
- 17 year olds cannot drive from 1 AM to 5 AM unless accompanied by 21 year old licensed driver or driving to and from work.
CDL Exemptions
The following persons are exempt from the requirements to obtain a commercial driver license:
- Drivers of authorized emergency vehicles that are equipped with extraordinary audible warning devices that display red or blue lights and are on call to respond to emergencies;or
- Military personnel driving military vehicles; or
- Farmers transporting farm supplies or farm machinery, or transporting agricultural products to or from the first place of storage or processing or directly to or from market, within 150 miles of their farm; or
- Drivers of recreational vehicles used for recreational purposes; or
- Drivers who operate straight trucks (single units) that are exclusively transporting their own tangible personal property which is not for sale.
- An employee of a publicly owned transit system who is limited to moving vehicles for maintenance or parking purposes exclusively within the restricted-access confines of a transit system's property.
i have gone to the local DMV, called the local DOT and even asked a few highway patrolmen and all of them keep giving different answers but with the same general theme, they dont know, that florida doesnt require a special license for RV's and that majority of the rules out there dont apply if it is properly license and titled as a RV and not a commerical vehicle and i am not doing any business or getting paid in any way or anything with money for that matter. I even tried to check a few different sites and they say such and such restriction for commercial vehicles and then in smaller print, Recreational vehicles and private trucks and trailers do not apply to these rules or soemthing of the sorts, i have literally been stuck battling this question for the past 4 years since i bought this rig and no one has ever gotten me a straight answer. I've driven thru Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Mississipi, Louisiana, Texas(at least as far as houston), south carolina, north carolina, and a little under 100 miles into virginia and never once stopped at a weight station or had a DOT officer stop me and when i even try to ask at truck stops while getting fuel no one has an answer. -
And you really think you can get more accurate answers here, if all the LEO's you've spoken to can't give you the answer?
Just curious, what is the GVWR of that rig in the picture? -
i am just going off of figures off the top of my head so i will have to double check tomorrow when i get back to work and can go out back and check the GVWR stickers on her but i believe her weight is about 34,000 loaded for the front rv section and i do know that the trailer weighs about 13,000 empty so add in on a full load to the track 4 cars at about 3500 each plus some spare tires and fuel and i would also guess the trailer to be roughly at max load 30,000
but again this is just off the top of my head if i rememeber correctly so i will check tomorrow -
Couple hundred a day plus rooms on what will be the rare night off and I would consider it.
That is a motor home with a trailer, different rules.
Have done some race car and motorcycle transport in a very similar rig.
Took a groups of guys bikes to Sturgis for them a few years ago.RickG Thanks this. -
Here in NC, drivers of RV's with a GVWR over 26,000, and towing over 10,000 are required to hold a class A license, non-commercial. It's been on the books for a long time, but hasn't been enforced until recently. If it has air brakes, then the driver must also pass the road test with a vehicle equipped with air brakes. Otherwise there will be an air brake restriction on the license. I can't speak for other states' requirements on RV's.
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