crossing state lines

Class 8 starts at 33,000 grossing at 80,000 minimum and add more axles all the way to roughly 160 TON.

My Tahoe would be a class 2 if I was commercial at 8000 pounds. Your chauffers license indicate a different type from CDL and appropriate for what you do.

Let's see.

You need to check with the State DMV and clarify if you are being paid to haul a load from one state to another state on your license for your class 6 Vehicle. I don't know enough about the rules to comment.

By load I define it as "For Hire." These two words are VERY important. If you are NOT FOR HIRE. Then you are good to go. Vehicle MUST be marked same.
From Wiki...


Light duty
Class 1
The Class 1 truck gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) ranges from 0–6000 lb (0–2722 kg).[1] Examples of trucks in this class include the Dodge Dakota, Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon.[8]

Class 2
The Class 2 truck gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) ranges from 6001–10000 lb (2722–4536 kg).[1] Examples of vehicles in this class include the Dodge Ram 1500, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, and the F-150. Class 2 is subdivided into Class 2a and Class 2b, with class 2a being 6001–8500 lb (2722–3856 kg), and class 2b being 8501–10000 lb (3856–4536 kg). Examples of vehicles in Class 2b include the Dodge Ram 2500, Chevrolet Silverado 2500, and the Ford F-250. SUVs in Class 2b include the Ford Excursion and the Chevrolet Suburban 2500. Class 2a is commonly referred to as a light duty truck, with class 2b being the lowest heavy-duty class, also called the light heavy-duty class.[8][9][10]

Class 3
The Class 3 truck gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) ranges from 10001–14000 lb (4536–6350 kg).[1][11] Examples of vehicles in this class include the Dodge Ram 3500, Ford E-350, Ford F-350, and the GMC Sierra 3500. The Hummer H1 is another example of a single rear axle Class 3 truck, with a GVWR of 10300 lb (4672 kg).

Medium duty
Ton rating

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When light-duty trucks were first produced in the United States, they were rated by their payload capacity in tons (e.g., ½-, ¾- and 1-ton). Over time, payload capacities for most domestic pickup trucks have increased while the ton titles have stayed the same. The now-imprecise ton rating is presently used to compare standard sizes, rather than actual capacities.

This has led to categorizing trucks similarly, even if their payload is different. Therefore, the Ford Ranger, Honda Ridgeline, Chevrolet S-10, and GMC S-15 are called quarter-tons (¼-ton). The Ford F-150, Chevrolet 10, Chevrolet/GMC 1500, and Dodge 1500 are half-tons (½-ton). The Ford F-250, Chevrolet 20, Chevrolet/GMC 2500, and Dodge 2500 are three-quarter-tons (¾-ton). Chevrolet/GMC's ¾-ton suspension systems were further divided into light and heavy-duty, differentiated by 5-lug and 6 or 8-lug wheel hubs depending on year, respectively. The Ford F-350, Chevrolet 30, Chevrolet/GMC 3500, and Dodge 3500 are one tons (1-ton).

Similar schemes exist for vans and SUVs (e.g. a 1-ton Dodge Van or a ½-ton GMC Suburban), medium duty trucks (e.g. the Ford 1½-ton F-450) and some military vehicles, like the ubiquitous deuce-and-a-half.

Class 4
The Class 4 truck gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) ranges from 14001–16000 lb (6351–7257 kg).[1][11] Examples of vehicles in this class include the Ford E-450, Ford F-450, Dodge Ram 4500, and the GMC 4500.[8]

Class 5
The Class 5 truck gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) ranges from 16001–19500 lb (7258–8845 kg).[1][11] Examples of trucks in this class include the International TerraStar, GMC 5500.[12] Dodge Ram 5500, and the Ford F-550

Class 6
The Class 6 truck gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) ranges from 19501–26000 lb (8846–11793 kg).[1] Examples of trucks in this class include the International Durastar, Chevrolet Kodiak/GMC TopKick C6500 and the Ford F-650.

Heavy duty
Class 7
Vehicles in Class 7 and above require a Class-B commercial driver's license (CDL) to operate in the United States. These include GMC C7500 and the Ford F-750.[13] Their GVWR ranges from 26001–33000 lb (11794–14969 kg).[1]

Class 8
The Class 8 truck gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) is a vehicle with a GWVR exceeding 33000 lb (14969 kg).[1][14] These include tractor trailer tractors as well as single-unit dump trucks of a GVWR over 33,000 lb; such trucks typically have 3 or more axles. The typical 5-axle tractor-trailer combination, also called a "semi" or "18-wheeler", is a Class 8 vehicle. Standard trailers vary in length from 8' containers to 57' van trailers, with the most common length being the 53' trailer. Specialized trailers for oversized loads can be considerably longer. Commercial operation of a Class 8 vehicle in the United States requires either a Class-B CDL for non-combination vehicles, or a Class-A CDL for combination vehicles (tractor-trailers).

 

That's different then. I recall a law that if you were a salesman or engaged in delivering your product to be used to build or repair homes etc have at it. I don't see anything for you to run out and get a CDL B for those trucks your outfit has for that kind of work.

The premise for that is your company bought the material and until that material is delivered and paid for by the homeowner or buyer it's still your company's materials.

 

Also being from MI, the chauffeurs it is needed for any time one makes money driving. Just another way the state gets more money for no reason. I'm sure you know that Pilot, just emphasizing it for other posters.
Looks like you are from GR area so I'm guessing you go to IN? You might want to call Indiana State Police Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Division and ask them. They'll know what you need.

-Steven

 

• 1. i have a good question,,,cargo vans that dont haul passengers or hazmat under 10,000lbs are all using MC numbers becuase they cross states lines.But there not FMCSA regulated,well MC numbers are a FMCSA rule.
     
     You are subject to FMCSA regulations if you operate any of the following types of commercial motor vehicles in interstate commerce:
     · A vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating (whichever is greater) of 4,537 kg (10,001 lbs.) or more
     
     · A vehicle designed or used to transport between 9 and 15 passengers (including the driver) for compensation, whether direct or indirect
     
     · A vehicle designed or used to transport 15 or more passengers including the driver and not used for compensation
     
     · Any size vehicle used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous for the purposes of the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act (49 U.S.C. 5101 et seq.) and which require the motor vehicle to be placarded under the Hazardous Materials Regulations (49 CFR Parts 100-177). This includes INTRASTATE Hazardous Materials carriers
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  3. On FMCSA website,if you dont apply to the above then your not regulated,but then they say if you cross state lines then you need MC numbers in ADDITION to DOT numbers,,,,,,,but your not regulated in the first place,,im confused

 

A chuch bus. Fill it with 15 people in a van, go to a camping trip for a retreat across another state line. Nothing needed at all.

Now if you had a van and said that you want PAYING PASSENGERS to haul to the casino for a day trip for a PROFIT and INCOME to your pocket. Then yes you are a commercial vehicle. Commercial means to work for a living.

A private van filled with your family or your stuff does not a commerical vehicle make.

Does that help?

 

well yes i know that, but a cargo van for the use of transporting goods over state lines. if there not FMCSA regulated in the first place because there under 10,000lbs ,no hazmat or passengers then why do they need MC numbers...i know it gives you authority to transport goods over state line,but like i stated above,MC is regulated by the FMCSA,and the first thing is say is You are subject to FMCSA regulations if over 10,000lbs,passenger or hazmat .
so if your not subject n th first place, how would mc number apply to you?

 

So many replies, so much incorrect and irrelevant information.

Do yourself a favor and read the regs. That's where you'll find the definition of what is or isn't a CMV. It will also tell you exactly what the licensing requirements are for various weight vehicles. Are you licensed to drive the size vehicle you're being asked to drive? Is it large enough to require a CDL? Answers are in the regulations. I haven't seen an accurate or relevant answer here yet.



So is the vehicle you're driving 26,001 or more pounds? Is it designed to carry more than 16 passengers? Are you carrying HazMat? If the answer to all of the above is "No", then you don't need a CDL. You will, however, need to make sure your license covers vehicles the size you will be operating. Some states issue class C licenses (up to 26,000#) as their lowest class, in which case you'd be fine in a 22,000# truck. Others have a class D license (up to 16,000#) as their lowest which means you'd need to upgrade to a C in order to drive a 22,000# truck. If you're able to legally drive the vehicle in your home state, you're probably fine. Only other thing to consider is your age. If you're over 21, you're fine there, too...although even if you aren't, 391.11 only requires you to be 21 to drive a CMV, and you aren't driving a CMV per 383.5...so again, you're fine.

Too many folks around here like to get all worked up over nothing, and repeat the same BS they heard from some other clueless nitwit who got his information second or third hand. Read the regs...the answers are all in there.