Cryogenic Transportation is bad,bad,bad

Sadly, you've been misinformed. We are NOT the cause of all these regulations. I'll give you just one example; D.O.T says I must stop driving after having been driving for 11 hours because I am now "fatigued". How did they find that out? They don't know one GD thing about what it takes to get me fatigued. Didn't you ever wonder why so many drivers run illegally? They ain't freakin' tired yet. Now if they really want to cut down on fatigued driving they could do something a little more pragmatic like make the driver declare a start time at the beginning of his work week and then not deviate from that start by more than two hours during the week. You want to start at 0500, then you cannot start before 0300 until you complete a 34 hour restart. That's the problem with fatigue; drivers are thorouhly screwing up their circadian rhythm. But yet the government in their infinite wisdom seems to think otherwise.

 

First thing here "bossboy" it's not God's fault here..? Your "GD" doesn't fit ...!
My next to last paragraph says it all.
"Driver's who think the laws and regulations don't applied to them" are you one of them. No Safety for the sake of the "all mighty dollar"...?
Get in my way I'll run you off the road cause I gotta make the truck payment.
All forms of commercial transportation are governed by "hours of service" airlines, rail, as well with bus and trucks, even ocean vessels.
Regulations are necessary, your dealing with the safety of the public, your not the only one out there.
So let me ask you something, your out driving with your family, cross an intersection which you have the green light to proceed ?
A truck driver's who's been behind the wheel, driving for 18 hours, fails to stop for the red light, because he dosed for that split second, couldn't get stopped in time, and "broad sides" your car, injures or kills members of your family now what ?
Your ready to "sue somebody" that makes up for the loss of life or injuries your family has suffered..?
Regulations are about uniform compliance for everyone, not the Government telling us what to do.
Your paid to drive that truck, which your to be in control of at All Times, Under all Conditions.
That makes it necessary for compliance on how many hours you can drive.
No excuses, you trained for that C.D.L. and you said you know how to handle driving trucks.
11 hours is the law your not the same when you first started out after being on duty driving for 10 hours driver.
Don't care how much "road dope" you do your reaction reflexes dimness's while driving.
Back in the day, I will "cornfess" to [SIZE=4]running[/SIZE] 2 log books....?
After 18 hours driving 750 miles I was ready to get from behind the wheel. lol
It's not worth risking your life as well as the life of others for a few dollars more.
[SIZE=4]All that can happen is, you'll [SIZE=4]drive[/SIZE] [SIZE=4][SIZE=4]yourself[/SIZE] into an early grave..![/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]S[/SIZE]o you go right ahead with that thought process, I pray that your family doesn't get tangled up with a truck driver who thinks the same [SIZE=4]as you on driving hours, and wipes them out because the law didn[SIZE=4]'t apply to him..[/SIZE][/SIZE]

 

Well Jaebro, we've definitely gotten away from the O/P's original post but hey, I appreciate your prayers. I do not appreciate you lumping me in with a bunch of other drivers who do drive unsafely. I for one do not. In fact, I'm probably one of the few O/O's that advocate for the EOBRD's. Do I manage to beat the system on occasion? yes. Am I tired as a result? If I'm tired I don't even attempt it. I for one don't know anyone who can drive 18 hours. I'm not going to argue the point any more but if you think the government telling us what to do, how to do it, where to do it, when to do it and even lie to your face about why your gonna do it is a good thing, again your sadly mistaken. I've already started a thread from the government's own FMCSA website that lists the major causes of big truck accidents and guess what, fatigue isn't even on the page...anywhere. What we're really dealing with here are insurance companies. Now, watch what you write next because I have several family members who can really chew the fat about insurance companies because they work for them.

Now, is there anything wrong with an alternative to what we are currently being forced to tolerate? You can respond on a new thread if you like so that maybe the O/P can restart.

 

No I haven't gotten away from the post, but I didn't see any response to what if it was your family injured by a truck driver..?
What you haven't taken into account here is, when statistics add up to where the same driver errors keep happening, and "John Q Public" complains to his Government official, whom he gave a "campaign contribution" there are enough studies compiled before new regulations come in driver.
Back in the day there was no endorsements for any equipment that you handled.
Your carrier gave you some training, or you trained with another driver, then you were on your own.
It was expected, as a professional truck driver that you would do the right thing, and operate your equipment safely..!
That also is the position with the Government that you will do the right thing by the guidelines that have been setup.
But come on now driver not everyone, wants to follow the rules, and form their own interpretation, of the rules, then things start to happen.
We as drivers are our own worst enemy, and things have to be done to make a correction, it's not an individual basis, we all suffer.
Never suggested that you were a bad driver, what I did say should have left you to look at your own situation, which could be of help to some one else.
Based on your experience, do you tur[SIZE=4]n and wa[SIZE=4]lk away, or speak up to say [SIZE=4]"this type of stuff will hurt everyone in the long run"..?[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
In the end it comes down too, "is it all about me" I don't care cause I got my own thing"
To respond to these threads and complain for which you have no idea that it wasn't like this before, but there has been enough of a problem that Government has to make a change.
Government has always been too little too late for which someone finds a "loop hole" to work around new regulations.
Problem is we don't learn from this, and we keep repeating the same mistakes for more regulation.
Insurance..? Well there suppose to make money too...?
But when your payout is more then your generated income, where's their profit..?
You keep having accidents, violations, and claims, then your a "high risk" driver..!
To stay in the game, you got to "pay to play" if you don't reduce your liability to get out that "high risk insurance bracket.
Until we correct our own actions, then we'll suffer for those who try to beat the system, and get caught doing so.

 

Not true at all Linde sites. Make sure u go to one of their union sites. Since the Nazis took over BOC it is rule with an iron fist. Zeek Heil. Joe

 

I heard from a few forums that this company had cameras filming the inside of the cab. Can someone tell me if there is any truth to that. I have an interview soon and I would like to know before I travel 2 hrs north. Not sure exactly how I feel about the matter but my first intuition is "uncomfortable". I think it will have a key role as to taking the job if indeed they do have them.


Thx

 

sad to say but yes some locations have the cameras..mine doesnt yet..we have heard they are coming this year..have heard all locations will have then some day..I dont think many if any of the union shops have them yet..I know that cartersville,beloit,midland ,sparta and selkirk have them as of now...its sad going to be some long term good guys leaving over this...as far as the job its the best of the best if you can play the micromanaging game..what location are you looking at?

 

I have an interview for the Fontana, CA terminal. They told me that I can expect to make 50-60k working 3 weeks OTR / 1 week off (hauling tankers), the provide training. So I was doing some research before making the drive over. I have lots of questions imma ask the person interviewing me and I'll have to make a thread on how it went there is not much in the way of company reviews.