CSA 2010: How will the Driver Rating System affect you?

That's the way I understand it. Those would only show up if they were included information on an roadside inspection.

Not sure why the #'s show up beside the quotes, but thios is from the csa website.

 

And your point? According to them it won't be considered or part of your csa then.

 

Even if cited in a CMV it will not show up on CSA2010 unless it was also shown on an inspection report. Obviously, citations issued while in a non-CMV will not show up, including, as I understand it, DUIs.

Here's the kicker though. If the officer pulls you over for speeding and gives you a warning, then proceeds to do an inspection and notes the warning on your inspection report, that WILL show up on the CSA.

We just went through this with Pete Trimble, one of the safety gurus at Keen, and picked his brain for a few hours about CSA. Some stuff in there that I think WILL make trucking better for those who know their jobs and are serious about doing it well, and safely. But also some things that sound absolutely idiotic. For example, permit violations. Something as simple as forgetting to sign a permit is weighted 10x on severity (the max under current CSA scoring) and is considered as dangerous as a stupidly improper load securement.

At least, as it stands now, there's no punitive measures for DRIVERS under current CSA2010 regulations. Only carriers can receive increased inspections or audits and have other punitive actions taken against them. The FMCSA is leaving it up to the carriers to take care of bad drivers, though I imagine that can and will change. But, they are also leaving it up to the carriers to determine at what point a driver is considered "bad" too. All depends how important the carrier's CSA scores are to them I guess.

 

I agree with you. Can't get no newer than a Kenworth T700. Problems, Yes. Our Decision to run, our butts. No matter how we document it.

 

You have a citation in a truck----wherever--it shows up!!! You need to quit where this is only going to go down on a scale/wayside inspection!!

 

better read again little boy!!

 

BS. I am sorry Diesel Bear, I am the slowest of the fleet, easiest to pick on, and by the way "cute".

 

You lost me?

 

From what I have read, and been told, if the violation is not recorded on a CMV Inspection it will not be recorded by the comprhensive safety analysis (CSA). Here's a link to a driver fact sheet. This exact question is asked and answered and it state's if an inspections is not conducted with that violation listed it will not affect you. Here's the link:


http://csa2010.fmcsa.dot.gov/Documents/CSA2010_DriverFactsheet.pdf


However, convictions still have to be reported.



Notification requirements and employer responsibilities

§383.31 Notification of convictions for driver violations.
(a) Each person who operates a commercial motor vehicle, who has a commercial driver's license issued by a State or jurisdiction, and who is convicted of violating, in any type of motor vehicle, a State or local law relating to motor vehicle traffic control (other than a parking violation) in a State or jurisdiction other than the one which issued his/her license, shall notify an official designated by the State or jurisdiction which issued such license, of such conviction. The notification must be made within 30 days after the date that person has been convicted.
(b) Each person who operates a commercial motor vehicle, who has a commercial driver's license issued by a State or jurisdiction, and who is convicted of violating, in any type of motor vehicle, a State or local law relating to motor vehicle traffic control (other than a parking violation), shall notify his/her current employer of such conviction. The notification must be made within 30 days after the date that the person has been convicted. If the driver is not currently employed, he/she must notify the State or jurisdiction which issued the license according to §383.31(a).
(c) Notification. The notification to the State official and employer must be made in writing and contain the following information:
(c)(1) Driver's full name;
(c)(2) Driver's license number;
(c)(3) Date of conviction;
(c)(4) The specific criminal or other offense(s), serious traffic violation(s), and other violation(s) of State or local law relating to motor vehicle traffic control, for which the person was convicted and any suspension, revocation, or cancellation of certain driving privileges which resulted from such conviction(s);
(c)(5) Indication whether the violation was in a commercial motor vehicle;
(c)(6) Location of offense; and
(c)(7) Driver's signature.

There is and interpretation

Question 1: Must an operator of a CMV (as defined in §383.5), who holds a CDL, notify his/her current employer of a conviction for violating a State or local (non-parking) traffic law in any type of vehicle, as required by §383.31(b), even though the conviction is under appeal?
Guidance: Yes. The taking of an appeal does not vacate or annul the conviction, nor does it stay the notification requirements of §383.31. The driver must notify his/her employer within 30 days of the date of conviction.