CSA2010 and log book form and manner violations

That you know of. That doesn't even matter though, since if this system works like they want it to, every driver at your company will also have to have been Mr Perfect for the past three years. Otherwise, you might be on the unemployment line through no fault of your own. It'll be a very long line too.

 

But, never is a single person held liable for the large companies. The companies just pay the fine and consider it part of doing business. All the cases you hear about a single person or persons being held responsible are small operations.

Name a major case where one of the ATA's top 50 companies had a person held responsible other than a driver?

Mark

 

I do not work for a company, I am an Owner operator leased to a company. I will just go elsewhere.


I have been dot'd many times level one over the last 3 years. No problems.

Like I said, no worries.

 

The only redeeming thing is that the older a violation is, the less point value it will have

 

And I bet most of us can say that (I cant, I have 3 minor violations in the last 2 years) but does that make it FAIR OR RIGHT for everyone else?
I think we ALL should start with a perfect safety rating and the cream will rise to the top and the crud will sink to the bottom. At least give a driver a fair warning to get his stuff in order and maybe he can keep his job!
I know we all should have playing by the rulse from day one but, let's be honest, if 175,000 drivers are at risk of losing their jobs, where else, but welfare, are they going to go??? Esp. the drivers with families that are 1 paycheck from poverty!
All I'm saying is give a guy a chance b4 you kick him to the end of the welfare line!

 

I too have nothing to worry about as my past 36 months are clear.

I just think that since the companies have the most power (ie, the power of wages) over the driver that the system is going to start off skewed backwards.

 

I did not say I agree with the 36 month lookback. It is just something to have to deal with.

Personally, I really doubt it will be as bad as some think.

 

Drivers that were ticketed for equipment violations that they reasonable should have caught have no room to complain. Repairs should have been made whether or not there were "consequences" if they were caught. If they have speeding or other moving violations, most likely they knew they were breaking the law and made that decision themselves. Whether or not you or I agree with the law, that's what it is and a 'professional' driver recognizes the need to work within it's confines as much as possible.

CSA2010 is designed as a rating system, intended to show patterns of behavior and provide a means of intervention to correct problems much earlier than under previous systems. IMHO anyone who has accumulated enough 'points' to be classified unfit is very unlikely to have done so without knowing they were violating the rules.

I'm not thrilled with this new program being a firm believer in less government not more, but I do understand the concepts behind it. It has been in the planning stages for many years, but how many drivers care enough to keep on top of this stuff?

Those that are worried - probably should be.

 

Those of us that have excellent records could very well be sitting in the catbird seat in 1 or 2 years as the driver pool once again dries up.

 

I hope you are right!
But it is a Goobermint policy and that just says SNAFU all over it. If they told me the sky was blue and grass was green, I'd still look at both before I agreed with them!