Cummins N14 Celect Plus - 14L - 1995 ish - cold idling rpm problem

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  1. Kiwi Man

    Kiwi Man Bobtail Member

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    Hi All

    I have Cummins N14 Celect Plus - 14L - 1995 ish - cold idling rpm problem ( in a Freightliner FLB )

    Engine starts and idles around 800rpm ( ish ) - then it appears when compressor turns off pressure alarm - or around that timing - rpm increaess to 1000 rpm and stays there - will not come back to the 800rpm. This would be around approx 5 minutes ( ish ) of idling.

    I am guessing its a faulty sensor?

    Anyone else had this problem?

    Apart from that - engine appears to perform normally.

    Truck has been sitting for quite a while - if that helps.

    Thanking you in advance - any feedback would be appreciated.
     
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  3. Big Road Skateboard

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    What is idle set at? If it returns to lower RPM after warming up, i would think it's in the ECM programming for cold mode.

    Honestly can't remember ever seeing a 14 with a cold start change in the parameters
     
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  4. Kiwi Man

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    Hi and thanks - idling does not return at all - thats the problem - it stays at 1000rpm which makes it hard to get into gear etc.

    At around 5 minutes of idling from cold - it slowly revs up to 1000rpm and stays there.

    I have not read any codes yet - I doubt anyone would select 1000rpm for idle?
     
  5. Big Road Skateboard

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    Are you sure there's no interference with the throttle pedal? I would be hooking it up and look at throttle %
     
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  6. Kiwi Man

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    Throttle pedal remains untouched and it still rises to 1000 rpm with no apparent input or pedal movement.
     
  7. Big Road Skateboard

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    Unhook the TPS and see what happens
     
  8. Kiwi Man

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  10. Kiwi Man

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    Yes - for under body hoist - clutch engaged.
     
  11. Transportauto

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    So don't remember seeing a cold rpm parameter in a n14 however a coolant temp sensor could cause such. Also I'd want to log in to it and watch the Temps as well as thrott
    So don't remember seeing a cold rpm parameter in a n14 however a coolant temp sensor could cause such. Also I'd want to log in to it and watch the Temps as well as throttle position. Not a whole lot that can go wrong on a n14 very simple
     
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