Cummins N14 Celect Plus nightmare

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  1. luisarmando0812

    luisarmando0812 Bobtail Member

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    So I have had a nightmare with my N14 largely due to it being sold to me as a rebuilt engine with paperwork but it actually wasn’t. Anyway, this engine was finally completely overhauled in-frame. I have an OIL LEAK which looks to be coming from the rear main seal. I took a look back there the seal is dry and the cam seal looks good as well. The oil seems to be either seeping from the bolts that go into the housing upper left corner, but there is also a plug sitting on the upper right corner, and that plug looks a little wet. I wasn’t able to replace that plug which has a seal at the moment but I’m wondering if it’s possible for the oil to seep from the bolt housing. If it’s possible to seep from the bolt housing, what does this mean and how do I fix it?
     
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  3. luisarmando0812

    luisarmando0812 Bobtail Member

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    Also forgot to mention this engine is a 99’ and the oil pan was replaced, and it doesn’t have the rear bracket on the pan which I’m not sure if it needs it?
     
  4. luisarmando0812

    luisarmando0812 Bobtail Member

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  5. OlegMel

    OlegMel Medium Load Member

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    Looks like there’s a copper gasket under that bolt that might be leaking. I’d cutoff the silicone, unscrew the bold and replace the washer
     
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  6. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    I don't guess I've ever had to do a rear main on a 14. Looks like the seal is in a cover that bolts to the block, then the flywheel housing over it?

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  7. IH9300SBA

    IH9300SBA Road Train Member

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    You sure the freeze plug in the cam bore isn't leaking and running down? If so, the flywheel housing will have to come off to replace it.
     
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    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Very similar to the old 8.3's by the looks of it.
     
  9. OLDSKOOLERnWV

    OLDSKOOLERnWV Captain Redbeard

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    Yea the oil seal slips over the crank, makes for removing the flywheel….
     
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  10. OLDSKOOLERnWV

    OLDSKOOLERnWV Captain Redbeard

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    As mentioned earlier, there is a camshaft freeze plug in the back of the block. If it’s rusted from the outside in the oil will find its way done between the block and flywheel housing….
     
  11. W923

    W923 Road Train Member

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    That Allen head plug has an o ring under it…it’s possible that it’s hard and dried up and leaking. If you replace it it needs to come from Cummins or make certain it’s a viton boss 6 o ring regular black rubber ones don’t last long
    Definitely don’t think that seal is leaking because it doesn’t appear that the oil is flung all over. As previously mentioned it could be the large cam plug to which will require removing the flywheel housing one other thought…I had one that I rebuilt for a guy several years ago that he claimed needed a rear seal but it turned out someone had done an overhead and dumped a bunch of oil down the back of the block.
     
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