Cummins N14 Died, Now I have Slow Crank. Help!

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  1. QUALITYTRUCK

    QUALITYTRUCK Road Train Member

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    (1) manually bar engine over. If good, (2) run a ground cable from batteries to starter ground post
     
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  3. ShooterK2

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    Did it run rough or make any noise before it died?

    There’s only a few things that’ll make one die. Lack of fuel, loss of power to ECM, and loss of power to the fuel shutoff solenoid are the first things that come to mind. But being as it died and now cranks slow, I’m worried you’ve got engine damage. First thing I’d do is bar the engine over by hand and see if it feels normal. I mean, they’re kinda tough to bar over anyway, but if it’s real hard, it may have spun a bearing or worse.

    Sounds like you’ve done just about everything as far as electrical.
     
  4. x1Heavy

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    In the old days long ago if you hammered up and over a set of railroad or some other problem too hard with the pre computer engines, it will be a chance it just dumps running and quits. And there you are cranking.

    Today's computer trucks. they drive me crazy.

    Im betting the farm on the batteries. Second draw would be the cable to the starter. If you cannot pipe it ... and the river card would be the engine itself inside.
     
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  5. Rideandrepair

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    Have you tried to crank it with the clutch push in? Maybe clutch is dragging, damaged.
     
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  6. IH Truck Guy

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    Do you have the fuses or relays inside the battery box. .
    If so,I'd be looking there.
     
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  7. TruckerPete1990

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    There is a solenoid on the firewall for the starter also. Check that I think it's on passenger side
     
  8. ETMF 58 White

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    If the truck died crossing rough railroad tracks, then that was caused by the failure of an electrical connection to the ECM I would think. But I’m not sure what that would have to do with the starter not spinning sufficiently fast. It seems that would be a separate issue from the engine dying due to low or interrupted voltage to the ECM. BUT, that’s what started the issue, so maybe you need to back up and think it through from the beginning. Did an unfortunate set of circumstances bend a valve when it died? So now the engine is in a bind?
     
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  9. ChevyCam

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    I think you hit the nail on the head.

    Today I purchased a load tester, and tested all 4 batteries. They tested GOOD.

    I also picked up the proper socket to bar the n14 cummins accessory drive with a breaker bar and 5' jack handle. NO BUDGE. For anyone searching for this info the socket needed is a 1-5/16".

    Lastly I tried to roll the start the truck and pop the clutch in 5th gear, wheels locked and truck stopped in its tracks.

    Safe to say I think draining the oil and dropping the pan next weekend on my home time will be the next step.

    Thanks everyone for the quick replies. Will continue to update this thread. Apparently there will be a engine rebuild in my near future.
     
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  10. ChevyCam

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    No luck with baring the engine over, thanks for the advice.
     
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  11. x1Heavy

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    Ok you have a problem and it's going to be bad. Either crankshaft or your pistons may have crunched some valves if they are the kind that open into the cylinder in certain timing when the piston is on it's way back down out of the way or something. Bearings is another thought.

    But I think to sleep on the gloom and doom tonight. If the wheels locked on a rolling manual start then shes locked in the engine.
     
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