Cummins N14 engine swap question

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  1. surfer24

    surfer24 Bobtail Member

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    We recently spun a bearing in our n14 celect plus 460hp motor. The crankshaft had micro fractures and was bent. We decided to grab a motor from rydemore in Fitchburg Ma. We bought a n14 celect ESP plus motor 375-435hp but the computer reads 460hp. Rydemore had the motor running and stated it had a skip in the motor which sounded like an injector. We replaced mains and rods in the bottom end and everything looks great. The rest of the motor has newer reconditioned cummins parts. My question is which ECM should I use. The one from the spun bearing motor or the one that came with the motor from rydemore?

    I put the computer from the spun bearing motor on and we fired it up but black smoke is pouring out. Now I know there is an injector issue already but could it be worse because I didn't use the computer that came with the motor from rydemore?
     
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  3. BigCam9670

    BigCam9670 Medium Load Member

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    Which wiring harness are you using? If one is celect and one is celect plus you shouldnt be able to swap them. I would use the ECM that came on the engine along with everything else.
     
  4. surfer24

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    Both motors are celect plus motors one is a celect plus ESP the ESP models are for climbing hills
     
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    surfer24 Bobtail Member

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    Those are the engine data plates for each motor
     
  7. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Unless both engines were build as the same hp rating, you need to use the ECM the engine was built with. One of the big things here is the different CPL numbers. This is for critical parts list. The two engines may have different injectors, and/or turbos. The two calibrations will have different fuel mapping that may or may not be compatible with the physical parts that are installed. I doubt you would ever ruin an engine, but you would have less than desirable performance and fuel economy if you installed an ECM with the wrong calibration. If there is something wrong with the ECM, the original ECM can always be swapped over and the proper calibration software installed.
     
  8. special k

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    Is there a reason you're not using the original ecm? I'd match the the ecm to the engine if at all possible. If the plug is different from the ecm to the truck you might have to get an adaptor made. I know you can get ones for CAT's I assume you can for Cummins also. Good luck btw I'd sort out that injector quick. A friend of mine did an out of frame on his n-14 but cheaped out and reused his old(worn out puffing) injectors. 1 month later #5 injector quit on the road. He had it replaced and a week later the piston blew. He wasn't happy with 2 separate tow bills in one month. The engine now has 6 matched injectors.
     
  9. surfer24

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    Thanks guys. I guess in my mind since the two ECMs were reading 460hp I went with the one that was already matched to my truck but I was wrong and it dumped a whole bunch of fuel in the cylinder causing the black smoke. Ive cross referenced parts on the two motors and the injectors are different. Wire harness is the same so I don't have to worry there. I am going to switch computers out this morning and see if I can isolate the bad injector.
     
  10. cetanediesel

    cetanediesel Medium Load Member

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    Were those engines from the flooded trucks? I talked to them about a N-14 C+ I had for sale once and they told me the price on the flooded engines.
     
  11. surfer24

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    Yes it was. We went and looked at it first. You could tell the only thing that got ruined by water was the alternator. No water in the oil whatsoever and all reconditioned parts on it. We ripped the bottom end off and did mains and rods just because it was easy while it was out.
     
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