davis transfer

but ya his life wont be the same, i was saying how any driver would risk their cdl by running over hours cheating on logs, from what i read seems that more then this driver broke the law.

 

Just remember,

those comments came from drivers,

you could insert almost any company name, ...........

Davis has/had a decent safety rating, much better than average.

Curious to know the WHOLE story.

But, yeah, that driver is toast.....

 

There is always MORE TO THE STORY but... running over on logs has been the industry standard for more years then I've been around! The guy that taught me to drive back in 74 also taught me how to run multiple logs, how to back up trips and fuel accordingly... standard back then and until just a few years ago. It will take more then the threat of fines and elogs to change that mentality. For every ONE driver that gets caught there are hundreds, maybe thousands that never have or will get caught... Doesn't make it right but it is the truth and companies make buckets of money off the guys good enough to do it without getting caught. A company that I know preaches safety, safety, safety... and above all be legal, that is until you get your second dispatch and the DM calls you to tell you how to run on line 5 (off duty driving) to make your delivery/pick up on time and without running out of hours... of course if you call them on it you're screwed and if you call safety it's even worse, then they get on DM and you get screwed worse!!! oh well, that's trucking....

 

It's always a double edged sword with this industry. Safety tells you to keep it legal. Dispatch tells you to run no matter what. You run over hrs and safety will fire you. You don't run over hrs and miss pick ups or delivery of load then dispatch will fire you. From the moment you accept working for a company, you are essentially screwed as a driver. This is the only industry that I have ever worked where it seems the driver is always at fault. Then you look at the average driver's resume and see they worked for three or more companies in their career, some more than that on average then try to leave the industry to do something else and people think that you're a job hopper. It's not that it's the norm of trucking they see. So with that, once you're in it, it's almost impossible to get back out of it. So you don't want to be a job hopper or look like one, you feel forced to play by the rules of both sides of the coin by running the miles, illegal or not, and make your logs look good so both safety and dispatch are happy all so you can feed yourself and your family for the same wages you can make at $18/hr working local at 40 hrs a week with 4 or 5 hrs of overtime.

This industry had changed and some drivers, like me, look forward to elogs. Now the problem is the driver harassment when you stop because you are tired and need a nap and dispatch saying no stopping for I have hrs available per my elog.. So the sword is still double edged because safety now says don't drive tired, but dispatch uses that elog to keep you going.

This company is in that boat. They have elogs and it's coming out the problems with elogs are no different than paper logs. The only exception is the dot got lenient because they saw the "we're running elogs" stickers on the trucks, but not doing the hey driver how are you talks to see if that driver is tired or not and being forced to drive while tired, even though he has hrs to run per his elog.

All the elog has done was make the drivers drive more erratic for we don't have time to stop or we lose more money to be made. Sit in the truck stops and watch the drivers. Look at them on the roads. We are more in a hurry with everything we do than before. That alone is a safety problem... In my opinion.

I feel bad for the driver in this accident, yet I feel he will be setting a precedence with this industry through his company, especially with the allegations and if any of them are proven true. This will be a news story to watch for sure. I'm surprised OOIDA hasn't latched onto it with their reporters for this is a great story for them about their push to not have eobrs forced on us due to driver harassment and illegal driving.

 

jlind,shaggy you guys just said it all.

 

I'm not sure OOIDA will give a rats patootie but... maybe?? Don't think it will make a difference to be honest with you, OOIDA isn't as strong as the Union's lobby in DC and the unions want anything that cuts back on anyone making money but them, they already have everything in place to do a true line haul operation, all the yards strategicly placed and such, that alone gives them an advantage but they also already have the drivers that are ready and used to moving freight on off schedules and local drivers to start and finish the runs so the OTR guys just go when the time comes, not wasteing their clocks, we have to go and sit loading and unloading, burning our clocks up with no income for the most part and then because of those delays DM's and safety have their pi**ing contests and we get caught in the middle, not a great way to live!!!

BUT... as I say, that's TRUCKING!!!

Be safe all and have a great Memorial day weekend, don't forget the reason for the day!!

Remember to thank a Vet every day...

 

There were four DOT officers over there today. I noticed trucks going in and not one leaving. I have never seen so much equipment in that yard at once. Hmmm...

 

The hell of it is the equipment is not the issue almost all new trucks.

 

I hate to state the obvious, but it comes back to the drivers. It always does. We have the responsibility to do what's right. It's not the old days anymore. We live in a very litigious society and with stuff like CSA, it's not worth it to be "outlaws" anymore. I know we all have to make money, but it's hard to feed your family from behind prison walls or after you've lost your license.

 

I don't care what industry your in. The risk of taking a life for money is never worth it...