Day rate pay with overtime

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by PRtruckers, Oct 24, 2020.

  1. User666

    User666 Medium Load Member

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    No way. This country is too big with entirely too many opportunities to subject me or my family to slave wages. Poor mechanics always blame their tools.
     
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  3. TruckinMotherTrucker

    TruckinMotherTrucker Bobtail Member

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    In your experience with them, was this the norm for their drivers or were they short drivers so everyone else took up the slack?

    My first week of route training, I worked 13 hour days every day. I'm being assured it won't be like that normally. Not that I mind the long hours, i did otr for 10 years. However, the hardest hours of my current days and I'm barely making minimum wage during that time? Not sure how cool I'm going to be with that.
     
  4. '88K100

    '88K100 Road Train Member

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    Company up my way cant fill the seat for a flat rate run($250 daily) because my employer and our competitors all running that same trip pay for all our time/drops/picks for a gross of $320 daily
    No doubt they will fill the seat but not with a seasoned driver
     
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  5. Dumdriver

    Dumdriver Road Train Member

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    it’s called Variable Rate Overtime - or VROT for short. It’s basically Chinese overtime. No one understands the formula. Many companies that pay a daily rate (as opposed to hourly), plus commission, use this type of system. Very common in an industry that pays you by the case delivered (the small store soda deliveries for example).


    Edit: sorry to be repetitive - Didn’t see others had already explained it.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2020
  6. stuckinneutral

    stuckinneutral Light Load Member

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    Best advice I can give: Find a pace that you're comfortable with (that also keeps the higher ups off your ##*) and stay right there. Don't push to be faster, more efficient or do more expecting to get done and go home. In garbage you're never done. We used to say, "A heartbeat and a CDL were the only requirements for being hired." If you finish, they'll direct you to "help" another route - which is usually someone that is underperforming and incapable of doing the job in the first place. There's always going to be favorites and prima donnas that get cake routes, short runs, get to go home early. In residential I was working 5am to 7pm Monday-Friday on day rate. I scheduled routes, monitored staffing, coordinated with shop for downed units or maintenance issues every morning before going out and servicing my own collection route. During the day I would check on progress of 15 routes and coordinate sending "help" as needed each day for a variety of reasons. Fly under the radar - don't be so good or so bad that you are noticed and you'll have staying power.
     
  7. The Crossword Trucker

    The Crossword Trucker Road Train Member

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    Wow that is depressing.
    What kills me is that this is actually the correct advice for the situation. Its not crappy employees that create a culture like this , its just a symptom of an industry that is rotten to the core because its not properly being guided by market forces.
    Corruption can be smelled a mile away.
     
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  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Overtime pay for truck drivers is NOT required. Your company can VOLUNTEER to pay drivers overtime, or not. Union contracts can require overtime pay and whatever the union & company agree to is OK.

    The law (FLSA) that mandates minimum wage & overtime pay after 40 hours of work per week specifically expempts truck drivers and others in safety-sensitive areas are not covered by overtime pay requirements.
     
  9. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Every trucking company can CHOOSE to pay OT but the law doesn't require it for employees covered by federal FMCSA HOS. No matter how many companies choose to pay OT to drivers, OT is not required. Look up the Fair Labor Standards Act.
     
  10. freebeertomorrow

    freebeertomorrow Heavy Load Member

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    i'm fully aware of the laws. i chose to not work at a company refusing to pay ot @ 40+ and 1.5.
     
  11. 3031

    3031 Light Load Member

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    I get overtime after 8 hours a day or 40 a week. The industry is changing. Lots of local jobs pay by the hour now.
     
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