DD13 Fuel Economy (OTR Application)

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by RootHog, Dec 10, 2018.

  1. nofreetime

    nofreetime Road Train Member

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    I ran a 2014 Cascadia with a DD13 in a company truck for two years then bought a 2014 Cascadia with a DD15 Evo motor and leased it to the same carrier. My fuel mileage actually went up 0.3-0.5mpg I have lot a more power and I like the engine better.
     
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  3. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    How heavy to you haul at?(gross weight)
    See a difference in number off regens betwern the DD13 and DD15?
     
  4. RootHog

    RootHog Heavy Load Member

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    What were the HP and Torque specs for the two?
     
  5. RootHog

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    I am finding out now that I do not have to go with the 400hp on either the DD13 or the DD15 and can still have the Integrated Detroit Powertrain and the IPM4 programming with the DT12 Transmission.

    Turns out, if the salesman selects IDP, there is no getting away from the 400HP. By selecting each thing individually, I am able to get any engine I want, including 455/1750 rating, and 505/1650 rating.

    Also got some information from the guy who handles of the Freightliner specs for JB Hunt, Tyson, and Nussbaum (probably a few others as well). Basically, the DD13, spec'd the same, will tend to do a bit better in regards to fuel economy.

    This now has me leaning to the 455/1750 DD13.
     
  6. SteerTire

    SteerTire Road Train Member

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    I’ve spent the last 3 months talking to every driver I’ve met in a ‘19 about fuel economy.

    I’ve more or less come to the conclusion that I will be getting at least 7, and possibly more than 8 mpg. Weights varied. But most reported almost 8 when grossing 75k plus in the mountains. So long as they keep speeds below 65 mph. Sweet spot seemed to be 62 or 63.

    I did have one guy admit to 6 or less in the mountains. But he also stated he stayed in manual most of the time. Otherwise, he got around 8
     
  7. RootHog

    RootHog Heavy Load Member

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    With the technology of today, there is absolutely no reason to be manually shifting the DT12.
     
  8. SteerTire

    SteerTire Road Train Member

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    I really wanted a 13, but elected to go with the auto to reduce fatigue. Also past experience with the gearbox.

    It’s a solid setup, unlike their past attempts. But I disagree with the premise of absolutely no reason ever to use manual.

    Starting down a steep grade in auto is going to lead to severe engine damage for a few that are unfamiliar with it, and that allow it to run out before applying the jake.

    While this may be an incorrect set up that was never addressed in the past. Pulling the jake to stage 3 at 70-80 mph down a grade (in auto) will result in finding 10th, or even 9th gear real fast. Over revving the engine immediately.

    I suspect this was/is an inaccurate set up. There’s no reason that should happen. I hope this issue has been addressed by Freightliner.

    And this actually happened to one of our O/O. He put a rod through a piston.
     
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