Did FMCSA change requirements for the 34 hour restart?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LTL Bull, Jul 21, 2023.

  1. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Everybody looks at it from their own selfish perspective. I see guys in here all the time complaining that weekend work doesn't pay worth a ####. It quit paying well because they removed this regulation and then megas hamstrung everyone onto ELD's. It leveled the playing field and kept spot rates forever cheap right where they want them. That was the goal. Inflated rates from Covid was a once a century thing.
     
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  3. LTL Bull

    LTL Bull Road Train Member

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    That explains my fuzzy memory of it. The time it was in effect I was a log exempt city driver for R&L and even our logging guys in the city and road drivers except maybe teams would not have been impacted much most of the guys were done Friday evening or Saturday morning and off till Monday morning or very late Monday night or early Tuesday morning
    Thanks for your input, I’ll let my friend know he is misinformed about it
     
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  4. zinita17601

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    Is not always stupid,i live 90 miles north of baltimore,leaving the house at 5am means im hitting rush hour traffic in many directions:washington dc if im going south thru i 95
    Philadelphia thru i 76 or new york city and connecticut and new england on i 287.
    Starting my day at 3am after a restart is actually safer and more economical for me,i rather sit 2/3 hours waiting for a receiver to open than being stuck in traffic burning fuel and stressing out.im sure thats the case for many drivers in different parts of the country.
     
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  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Hey that's fine. Not saying you're wrong. All I'm saying is forcing trucks to be shut down over the weekend for up to 48 hours versus 34 hours has a positive effect on rates. It creates a shortage of trucks. Loosening up that regulation creates more available truck capacity without putting any new equipment on the road putting downward pressure on rates. That's a fact.
     
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  6. zinita17601

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    As u mentioned everyone looks at it from his own selfish prospective,its a fact if you pulling a van or a reefer,in the open deck segment it doesnt make any difference on the rates since most shippers and receivers are closed for the weekend and thats a fact too.
     
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  7. rollin coal

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    It's not about being open on a weekend. It's about a 2 day transit 1,000 mile load picking up on a Friday and delivering on a Monday. So you're saying you don't have those in the open deck world? Yep, that's what I thought. It does affect you in your segment too.
     
  8. zinita17601

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    open deck freight in most cases doesn’t have the urgency of van or reefer freight,for a shipper,to keep rates low,it can wait till monday or next day unless its a project and a rigging crew is waiting at the receiving end which will translate to a higher rate anyway.i’ve read many of your posts and i understand your business model is to run when a load has to move but that wont get you too far in the open deck world unless you’re running a highly specialized operation with very few competitors.
     
  9. rollin coal

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    No that's not at all how I ran at all with a reefer. Did more pre-planning and booking several loads for a week or more with the reefer. I did that with a dry van. Dry van pays nothing unless it has to go and even then there's a lot of idiots who will go cheap. So why does anybody waste their time with cheap on flatbeds?

    I did some project freight on a flatbed trailer with a buddy of mine that went from Morristown, TN down to a powerplant down near Birmingham, AL one time that was an 8 foot tarp load of some metal piping inside wooden crates that paid $2700 a trip from Landstar. We had 700 some miles in the trip and a day of work. Trailer was provided from a rental place and load securement, tarps, bungees by the shipper. It was a lot of work and I wouldn't ever do it again but I have to wonder why does anyone put effort into flatbed for pennies?

    I just find it very difficult to believe that all flatbed freight doesn't necessarily need to move with any sense of urgency at all. Markets swing wildly. Flatbed gets hot. I mean it's like every other broker segment. The good times are never greater than the bad, but still...
     
  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    That was an older version of the 34 hour reset rule. It IS NOT THE CURRENT 34 HOUR RULE. The current rules just requires 34 hours, regardless of time of day."
     
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  11. tscottme

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    All the kewl kids worked nights, I thought we already established that?
     
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